It started with their manager, a long-time SAS exec with excellent technical skills, who retired suddenly. Why? Was he at odds with the Big German's successor BH? Did the rest of the team's exodus stem from the same reason, or because he left, or... —  read more 

PL/1 -> C, MVA, TK, In-DB, HPA, LASR, CAS/Viya. They weren’t done. in a vacuum but had approval. What. would you have done differently? Where would you have diverged? Not in some abstract, retrospective fashion, but if you were there at the time... —  read more 

Based on goal setting and accomplishments, ten percent will be culled in the new year but with reduced severance (watch for new policy).

Anyone hear as to the stock options or rsu that SAS will offer?

If they will not offer it, HR should somehow get the message out. Then, those of us old farts hanging on in hopes of a package (or fear of retiring right before one is announced) could go ahead and retire and SAS could shed a bunch of costs.

Like others here, I spent a substantial part of my career at SAS and now have a lot of regret I didn't make a change earlier. It's important to me that other good people don't get su-ked into the vortex and get sp-t out years later wondering what... —  read more 

OK, so mistakes were made. That was recognized at the highest level. If you think the company is not on the correct course, what (reasonable and feasible) corrections would you recommend to management?

If you’re no longer working for the company, why are you here? Why badmouth the company you worked for when you’re long gone? It’s not helping you. It’s only hurting others.

How many total customers did SAS have at the beginning of 2023 versus now? How many Viya customers did SAS have at the beginning of 2023 versus now? How many V9 customers did SAS have at the beginning of 2023 versus now? How many V9... —  read more 

Hardly anyone uses Viya. Even the existing customers to whom it was given to gratis to evaluate. Eight years later after inception, there still no clear migration path from V9 to Viya. Call me pessimistic, but that doesn't sound like a wonderful... —  read more 

So much for all you end of the month doom and gloomers. Time for the November chicken littles to get the ball rolling again.

where are the layoffs that were expected in oct? Announced tomorrow morning maybe? makes sense to do it before open enrollment begins October 30. anyone have any details?

Does SAS still allow for part time work in technical roles like dev, test, tech support, etc? I used to know a few people who worked a few days a week but they are all gone now. I was thinking that as I get older this would be a nice transition to... —  read more 

It's me again, I was the one who 'broke the news' of October layoffs on here. There are plans for one more batch at the end of the month, 2 weeks from now, and then there should be relatively nothing until February where management will more than... —  read more 

https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/scfindex.htm Scroll down to: _Survey Data And Replicate Weight Files_ subheading Whose else thinks SAS is going to be around for a while?

I’m ready to be bought out, but pretty sure I don’t meet the criteria. A little shy of 60 and almost 15 years in. What were past criteria? Does one wait for the tap on the shoulder or volunteer?

And what do you do? Senior Dev in r&d, 140ish

This video says it all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krSu2yeadaY

Is the SAS championship attempting to celebrate what the company once was? Has the annual event become little more than a photo-op and a waste of money without meaningful ROI?

This post points out that a LinkedIn search for Viya yields only three job postings in the United States: https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@3jfx+1oW1I0bm What would it take to make Viya succeed? Better architecture? Better products on top of it?... —  read more 

If you hate it at SAS so much, why do you stay? This is an honest question. There are plenty of available jobs. I'm sure many of you are capable enough to be able to land something at least as good as what you have now. So why stay somewhere you are... —  read more 

There is no way SAS doesn’t know about this site. I’m just wondering what they’ll do with the info they are gathering? Even though this is anonymous, I could imagine SAS knows it’s definitely NOT the new hires or people under 5 years here... —  read more 

Revenue per employee is one of the key metrics that the market looks at when evaluating the relative efficiency of software companies. The numbers don't look too flash for SAS... Microsoft $958k VMWare $604k Adobe $600k Workday $497k ServiceNow... —  read more 

Can confirm that October is the month of doom. Was told today I have 30 days to apply for open jobs here, if I do not get one, time for me to hit the road, my job has been eliminated. SAS has too many employees at higher levels of too many job roles... —  read more 

Based on content in Walter Isaacson‘s new biography on Elon, there is a lot SAS executives could learn and act upon. Here are a few that might change things. Respect only the laws of physics., not personal opinions, experiences, etc. In... —  read more 

Good luck.

https://qz.com/1776080/how-the-mcdonnell-douglas-boeing-merger-led-to-the-737-max-crisis

Heard more layoffs took place today, this time in PSD. Heard of an entire team let go.

cronyism and blatant adultery within the Fraud and Security Intelligence division would make a great read. walter isaacson take note!

So many people who haven't been performing at a reasonable for years/decades are dragging this company down. They haven't kept their skills fresh, and even when given the opportunity to train, turned it down. And everyone acts all surprised when we... —  read more 

There's a story today on WRAL about another stretch of I540 nearing completion. According to the story, the entire I540 project will be complete by 2028. Which comes first - the SAS IPO, or I540 completion?

OK Folks -- what will it take!

200+ people laid off in February.

SAS announced their new "App Factory" during SAS Explore... They are trying to make a big deal out of the fact that users don't have to use SAS to do what you would ostensibly do with SAS--build AI models. And the tool they've built to enable this... —  read more 

As SAS takes the next steps toward its future, so will SAS Technical Support. Effective January 1, 2024, the Technical Support organization will adopt a global structure based on function, rather than geography, which reflects SAS’ move away from a... —  read more 

https://www.techzine.eu/blogs/analytics/111256/jim-goodnight-considers-later-sas-ipo-it-will-be-in-2025/

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article279298524.html

https://www.sas.com/en_us/news/press-releases/2023/september/ai-and-analytics-leader-sas-selects-td-synnex-as-primary-global-.html?utm_source=linkedin_company&utm_medium=social-sprinklr&utm_content=11312169816&utm_term=11312169816 I wonder whether... —  read more 

rumors circulating that buyouts will be sent out in the next 30 days, min employee age 55 with at least 30 years of service is the magic number. sad I'm not eligible. too old to be valued anynore but not old enough to escape yet. the magic number... —  read more 

Sadly 25 we’re just let go this morning. Uuugh