Thread regarding Saudi Aramco layoffs

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Anybody know if anything new is happening with aviation? Privatization?

I heard their manager resigned.

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Aviation is doing better now?

We've had zero townhall meetings to communicate with employees outside of Dammam, a lot of micromanagement, and questionable business decisions.

Ex: when Aviation was grounded earlier this year (1+ month) Aviation Management instead contacted GACA and waited for them to authorize us to fly once we de-registered/re-registered our owned aircraft vs. contacting the FAA to request a waiver regarding the flight restriction THEY issued. Had we first contacted the FAA for which the helicopters were already registered under it would've taken 3-4 days max to return to flying and no re-registration would've been required - this was proven by the fact that we got the waiver approved (in three days) once we requested it but only after the fact. The amount of money lost while we parked our whole fleet (70% leased) for over a month is excessive and was completely unnecessary. This doesn't take into account any operational delays and cancelations our customers (production/drilling) saw due to transportation setbacks either. They lost money too.

Also, what about those two brand new helicopters sitting in our hangar not being utilized as they were purchased for our "flight school" that we no longer have? So you're paying millions to store them in a hangar vs. utilization or selling the lease to another operator. Make any sense?

Now, half of our fleet is registered under GACA and the other half under the FAA, with every intention to convert the whole fleet locally to allow another operator to eventually take over Aramco's operation.

All of these politics for what? To destroy the world's most historic and longest held private Aviation department? To privatize and give ownership to a bunch of guys out of Riyadh that can't even run their current business within their own budgetary constraints? What kind of silliness is this? I don't care who they're funded by, they will wreck this place.

If you really want to save money then look in-house. Let's focus on seat optimization, especially for those aircraft that aren't being leased. This includes the 737s as well which routinely fly all over the country with less than five passengers, yes that's right - five passengers. That airplane shouldn't be in the sky with anything under 50% occupancy as a minimum. With manpower, let's start taking advantage of the decades worth of Aviation expertise and knowledge possessed by those we've hired and make informed decisions as we used to do? With the locals we have three mid-career professionals ready now for higher levels of authority, and have truly earned it - so let them. They can't be fleet captains forever and we can't keep letting the same 25-30+ year employees continually making the same poor decisions. Our flight dispatch needs a complete makeover (non-Nexus), so hire a software developer to orchestrate a database which automatically plans the flights and accounts for seat optimization like everywhere else. It doesn't matter if the airframes are leased, we should be operating under a more efficient business model no matter what. If you went down this road then you'd require less fuel, less maintenance, less parts, less manpower, less money required!

Lastly, stop the waste, stop the rumors, stop the politics, and start working together to better Aramco Aviation vs. allowing singular individuals to destroy it for their own personal gain.

The end.

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Post ID: @5owmu+10JnACOr

6-7 Americans terminated in Aviation department.

Several of our very worst employees (Saudis) were kept - I guess the Saudization kpi is more important than performance & safety.

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Post ID: @4Xofx+10JnACOr

Any layoffs in aviation? Tanajib? Ras Tanura?

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Post ID: @4Pdjd+10JnACOr

Aviation is better now.

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Post ID: @4Mjtv+10JnACOr

Thankfully the last Manager quit, what an abomination he was - toxic is an understatement. The irony though that he is the VP on the Board of Directors for a competing company out of Riyadh and that he's poaching pilots and admin staff to join him now. He also berated several employees for resigning to join said company while simultaneously ensuring his own position - conflict of interest apparently means nothing. What a shady individual.

I truly feel bad for the new Manager though given the fact he has such a mess to clean up.

Good luck to him, hee going to need it in spades.

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Post ID: @1Tcpt+10JnACOr

It's really sad, but you're absolutely right the Saudi management have NO idea what they're doing. Deer in the headlights is what happens when anything of importance is expected from them, but the status quo is to pivot towards a senior expat and let them do your work for you and then take credit for it. That's of course when they're even around as most of the management team are on perpetual "business trips" collecting per diem. It's such a charade. To be fair, there are a few that really do care, posses the intellectual capacity to make things better, and have good ideas but they'll never see the light of day with the same old school management team that never seems to retire and go away.

Some of the colossal mistakes I've seen would lead to termination in any other country without question. From blowing out a door during a pressure check causing structural damage on a million+ dollar airplane, to ordering a million+ helicopter that you didn't verify which fuel type it utilizes only to find out once it arrives that it uses a kind unavailable to us (oops), maybe that industry best standards flight school they started where it's been almost two years without a single graduate in what would take no longer than 3-4 months to finish the curriculum elsewhere, or to chasing off the permanent employees and becoming dependent upon a revolving door of contractors that you can't even pay on time or forget to pay altogether whilst working them six days a week with only one day off - it's really starting to come off of the rails a bit.

The new manager is certainly an upgrade from the previous one who got caught up in his own personal agenda and created the most toxic work environment I've ever seen in my 25+ years experience. Perhaps, given enough time he can try and get things back to the way they were though.

Ultimately, Aramco Aviation used to be a choice employer that many wanted to join but now it's become a joke and people know better and are staying away for good reason.

Solutions? Simple, fix the schedule and bring back the SWS, begin pairing senior expats (as before) with the Saudis at every position and use that experience to get better - get rid of the them vs. us bs culture, promote permanent employees when they're supposed to, pay contract employees on time - every time.

Those are the basics: fair/balanced scheduling to promote a positive work/family culture, and promoting/paying people on time. Is it so much to ask for?

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Post ID: @1ydii+10JnACOr

Have to admit after being here for quite some time really enjoying watching the complete aviation department falling apart. The phenomenal Saudi management team just walk around with a deer in the headlight looks on there face. Some of the worst decisions I have ever see at a company we’re all done right here by these id–ts. Hopefully they just complete the task and drive the department completely in the ground. Good work boys!!!

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Post ID: @1ykuo+10JnACOr

Hope the new pilots are better than the JHAH doctors.

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Post ID: @12fta+10JnACOr

Yes, he is gone good riddance dude. But I also heard that the person that out sourced the medical department is now in charge of the aviation department. That can’t be good for us still working here.

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