Thread regarding Frontier Communications Corp. layoffs

Frontier has stopped negotiations with FL IBEW.. just a matter of time now till they give 90 day notice

“Since the previous bargaining update, the full union and company committees have not met at the negotiating table. The company has not had any additional proposals to share with us and it is our stance that until they do, we will not be offering any more of our proposals to them. In essence, we will not be compelled to sit and bargain with ourselves.” (...update from IBEW to members)

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Post ID: @10LUszws

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My union in NY's contract expired 7/31/2019, We are currently in our 2nd 30 day extension (no pay increases, raises during extension) The union is being told by Human Resources the reason they haven't signed off on our contract is because they are looking into Restructuring Management, the issue with that is, well if you lay off our managers, and supervisors.... obviously you're not hiring NEW ONES, you're going to be laying off the reps beneath them too.... Our Current Contract extension ends 9/30/2019, I am hoping we aren't looking at lay offs right after the holidays. I was let go a week before Christmas once at another job, its not fun going into a new year financially uncertain and unstable. But all we can do is hope for the best, and prepare for the worst unfortunately.

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Post ID: @10LUszws-tbss

Our office is not united...we didn’t need the union and all it has done for employees is ensure people get promotions and special projects based on seniority instead of talent and work ethic. Wait, the union did do something else...s— those union dues out of peoples pockets every check. It has been like 2 years since our office went union and still no contract.

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Post ID: @10LUszws-kyix

I dont think management is at all afraid of the union. This forum is a glimpse of how priorities are all in the wrong places, this negotiation is in no way "completely normal" and if you are saying that it is based on being a steward, you are clearly part of the problem. Keep wearing the matching colors though because that really scares management into giving you everything you are bargaining for right? Oh wait.....

Keep staying strong, you never know the next union official that will steal and mismanage your union dues like the last treasurer!

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Post ID: @10LUszws-dyre

Well said.. best way to do that is to vote Trump in 2020

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Post ID: @10LUszws-aqfd

We must stand together and fight as a strong blue collar community. The middle class is under attack by corporate greed. As home prices and grocery prices soar where are we left? Yes I am a proud union member. No I am not afraid to take on these corporate cowards. I will always represent the blue collar America that has built this country. It’s obvious that Frontier is sabotaging our network but we can’t let them sabotage our livelihood. There is no reason why; decent, blue collar, middle class wages can’t coexist with corporate operations. Let’s keep our greed at ease and make this a better community for all. Don’t fall prey to corporate evil. Stand together as brothers and sisters and make our middle class shine.

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Post ID: @10LUszws-9oqo

Sad sad sad. .. simple math people. It's a game of hungry hungry hippo! The workers "hippo mouths" are shrinking while corporations and the wealthy "hippo mouths" grow. News flash "hard work" gets you nothing. Positioning yourself to be a bottom feeding selfish self serving in humane politically motivated narscist who only cares about themselves gets you everything you could ever want. Because those people make the rules to their own game that workers are forced to play by. Btw.. the phone companies and cable companies are ran by people who were hired in. They didn't invent anything, they were merely in the right place at the right time. Meanwhile,many who were not favored by luck and fortune get shunned as losers, incompetent, lazy, bad workers, criminals, thugs, easily replaced, pond scum by those who believe that their position paints the picture of success. Well. It doesnt. I'd rather be a brother, a father, a husband, a family man, honest, hard working self sacrificing man for the betterment of my fellow workers and my family than an overpaid pompous butt twaddle who is disrespected, hated, and largely disposable by both Co workers, friends and family.

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Post ID: @10LUszws-7edv

The only thing this company can break are the operations that were once well oiled machines. Frontier management is trying to reinvent the wheel every other quarter and they are clueless on running this mismatch of companies. Probably the same group that discuss Haribo Gummy Bears in the boardroon.

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Post ID: @10LUszws-5xla

If the union went on strike the company would probably start making money, it would definitely be addition by subtraction in some cases, most of the guys I manage actually create more work than what they get done and then blame everything on us and uppers. This company is going to break the union and the company and union are both to blame. I’ve never seen something so absurd in my life. I’ve always asked the question when union guys start spewing the good reasons to have a union, if you started a company would you allow the union in, I’ve never heard a yes. Yes everyone knows it’s nice to be protected by the union and get paid 35hr to create more work than you do and never be held accountable. The reality is, Frontier isn’t the power company or the phone company it’s just a cable company with a dead copper system and a poorly designed fiber plant trying to compete with nonunion companies- Verizon knew it was a complete failure of a product and luckily had deep enough pockets to keep the lie going until a company was dumb enough to buy it, or maybe this was the plan the entire time between Verizon and Frontier, no company could be stupid enough to buy this garbage of system along with a union?

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Post ID: @10LUszws-5xtb

Please, the union is just out for the union. Our location stupidly went union over a year ago and they have yet to come to an agreement. The funniest part is that we have an amazing director who truly thinks of us like family. Due to the union rules that not even the worst situation can be given special circumstances, the person that fought to get the union going, ended up getting fired because she was on a final when her daughter had a major health emergency and she didn’t follow all of the FMLA protocol. The director never would have fired her in this situation even though she was on a final because of her own doings and she did not do the follow up clearly outlined rules to complete FMLA setup. Even after she got the union started, he would have stood by her...but he couldn’t. Per union rules, he couldn’t treat her any differently than someone on a final and was a no call no show because they went on an unapproved vacation. There is a major pile up on the freeway that makes over half the staff late, nope, he can’t excuse that anymore because he won’t excuse a WAH persons tardy because they overslept. We did not need the union and enough people stupidly fought for it because they were drawn a picture of raises and job stability when the union can promise neither. We have a group looking into overturning our union vote since most of the people that were all pro union have since quit. My friend is now the union steward and they don’t even have any negotiation meetings set up in the future. Go ahead and pay your union dues to make union heads richer. Strike if you want to because plenty will cross that line while you struggle to support your family on the pittance of union strike funds you get. Wake up! Frontier is fighting for its life...they don’t have money to give us!

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Post ID: @10LUszws-3qds

The union already gave away our good healthcare and let them freeze our pensions. What else is there for the company to take other than our wages?

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Post ID: @10LUszws-1wzn

Sounds like Cletus will be rocking that red tomorrow and black on Friday!

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Post ID: @10LUszws-1myf

I’m a union steward and this type of negotiations is completely normal. Frontier management is afraid to bargain because they know we are united and we are not afraid to strike. Stay strong my brothers and sisters.

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