Thread regarding Frontier Communications Corp. layoffs

Federal employees, may be the only answer

It might just work....

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Post ID: @10xnpdVD

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Stfu Frontier. You ever came out to my work space you’d be going back to the office with “knuckles on your head”. You wouldn’t know what hit you. Contractors are horrible. You punk

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Post ID: @10xnpdVD-xkoo

Lol look at all these haters! Part of my job as a tech 1 is to just be in the CO! In case something happens I'll be there to fix it quick!! Mad because ya'll ain't got the prestige of working in the CO LOL. Shout out to all my fellow cots

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Post ID: @10xnpdVD-efbd

Maybe UnionBob can explain why UnionFL is quiet as a mouse these days? Cat, I mean Frontier got their tongue?

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Post ID: @10xnpdVD-4xvp

Wow UnionBob is smart enough to cop/paste. Wow good job.

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Post ID: @10xnpdVD-3fol

I always hear of the subcontractors doing such bad work, and I say have you seen some of the work our own employees are doing out there, most of them create more work for everyone else than what they do. Every time I visit a site with subcontractors they a working and not sitting in their truck or arguing with the customer. 20% percent of in-house techs do a good job and possibly a great job, 70% are just crippling the company themselves and continue to complain & blame management and subcontractors. I’ve never seen a group of employees so defiant against management and contractors, it’s like the union brainwashed everyone, In management we consider it borderline cult.

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Post ID: @10xnpdVD-2vrq

Sure Verizon was making a profit- I mean making it look like they were making a profit, that’s what company’s do that need to sell something that doesn’t work- it’s easy to do when you allocate profits from areas that actually make money- (Cellular- not copper this fiber network) it’s called fraud and Frontier got plunked. When Verizon built americast it failed and they must have used the same id–ts to design their FIOS (dumb name) plant. Frontier was id–tic enough to invest in a dinasuar of a copper system and a failure of a fiber system. Stop blaming the managers employee inabilities- they have no control, you can’t be blamed if you can’t manage- management can’t even do anything unless the union approves it. The managers are so scared of the employees and the union they won’t do anything unless upper management says it needs to be done. In all honesty it would be addition by subtraction to get rid of 70% of the Copper and FIOS (stupid name) techs, the union will fight for everyone that should be gone- it’s financial s–c-de for most companies to be unionized and Verizon new it -and now Frontier does. I know- you’re going to say why does the ceo make 30,000,000 - but the real question is billions not 30 mill(or whatever the company writes off for these id–ts). Look at all that’s wasted in warehousing/vehicles and equipment/over payed cable installers/usless employees/wasted overtime/lack luster incapable fiber system/dead copper system that can only be temporarily repaired with $36 dollar hr techs ($55hr during overtime) in Florida not New York it’s probably double for useless there, for a service and product that bleeds money/poorly designed fiber layout that will always need to be maintained and replaced anytime someone puts a new driveway or a shovel in the ground/customer churn after their first messed up bill, etc.,etc.,etc..........................Frontier is just lucky that charter is just as poor now with customer service. The managers are always blamed for the company being ran so poorly- the union is the Coompany needs to also take blame becuase it failed you guys by constantly making you believe you should do less not more and fight the company if it told you differently. Face the facts GTE was just trying to be nice. Good luck finding jobs that pay $80,000 - $140,000 with benefits pensions and bonus perks to do it. Most companies out there don’t want their employees telling customers that’s not my job and the union told me I don't have to do it.

It’s the new Frontier not GTE- don’t go it alone

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Post ID: @10xnpdVD-2rwx

The pure and simple truth is no one who can actually affect change knows what they are doing. There are zero qualified senior management network engineers, PERIOD. OSP engineers have no clue what they are doing. Contractors literally do half the work they get paid for and then company employees have to finish and fix. Zero recourse to the contractor except another job to half a–. The company has no qualified or experienced management. All classroom widgets. Find a C-Level.that can gaff a pole, string a drop or even use tech portal. It is not the unions it is the management who just don't care and just go through the motions.

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Post ID: @10xnpdVD-2vpx

I’ve worked in management and craft. The reason bad craft employees stick around is because of managers too incompetent to do their job properly. You have to show you actually tried to coach and improve your employee like you should be doing with EVERYONE on your team without singling people out . A lot of managers can’t do that. A lot of managers want to fire people because SOLELY because they don’t like them, or they don’t have the patience to coach someone out the door. Dumb manager don’t read or understand contracts which in why bad employees stay employed. Management is the read Frontier is in this mess to begin with.

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Post ID: @10xnpdVD-1ksc

Apparently GTE, you don’t get it. For one, Verizon was making a profit here in Florida when they decided to sell. Employees were making more then and working a lot more overtime. We also had more employees than we do now. It’s not the employees, it’s the company using antiquated software. Frontier had the opportunity to lease Verizon’s software until Frontiers software was capable. They did not do that and that’s why we had all the issues during the changeover. The whole point was Verizon was paying us more and they were still profitable in Florida.

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Post ID: @10xnpdVD-1nup

If you think the company can afford to pay union workers 30+hr just to b–ch, tell the customer it’s not their job, and basically create more work for everyone else in the company- then the employees are just as stupid as the company paying them that much for working on a destroyed and outdated useless copper infrastructure and disaster of a fiber design system that wouldn’t make sense to anyone with little or no common sense.The company is doing this because it’s only chance at a small profit would be to break the union- this is a cable company competing with lots of cable companies- it’s not 1980 when phone companies where like the electrical companies. The union and their workers are just as much to blame for this failure as the Frontier’s management — Frontier couldn’t and won’t change and the union employees won’t either- In Florida most of them make $80,000 a year without there $40,000 of useless overtime compensation they are complaining about.

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Post ID: @10xnpdVD-1rbg

Isn’t that the truth! I don’t know how half the people in our building stay employed. If they were given a test every year to make sure they knew how to do their jobs it’s safe to say that half would fail.

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Post ID: @10xnpdVD-kru

The only employees even more lazy and impossible to fire than union telco employees

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Post ID: @10xnpdVD-sak

At this point, I agree...

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Post ID: @10xnpdVD-wvb

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