It’s going to get a lot worse, especially for engineering and other support functions. Wrong people planning and short sided decisions.
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Folks it all leads back to piss poor upper management and the decisions they makes. Prime example is the goat rope with the 700 and offering it to customers. It hasn’t flown due to no engines and it caused customers to rethink buying 650’s, what brilliant management decision that was. But keeping with past poor decision making on upper management’s part GAC continues to slowly sink. The 500 and 600 has proven that the only thing upper management cares about is pushing aircraft out the door no matter what. I worked both the 500 and 600 and when directors has to go stroke the customers because of poor quality of aircraft then something is wrong (actually there is a lot wrong). It’s time to stop and take a long hard look at what’s going wrong and fix it, the RIF didn’t fix the issues it only slowed down the bleeding but the patient (GAC) is still dying a slow death.
Get out there and stop belly aching! This is the best job market I've seen in decades. Was layed off 1st week in September and just recently hooked up with a better job. Things will work out and you will find it was the best thing.
"Just look at how they fumbled and bumbled handling the layoff....you trust these people to run a company as complex as GAC? And you want to blame it on the market sector? Is it just the aviation industry that locks 400 people out of the office without notice? "
How Gulfstream handled the layoff is an abomination. As the market improves Gulfstream will find it difficult to attract people who will want to work for them.
That’s a pretty low bar to set. I’ve been been in aviation for well over 20 years and I’ve never seen anything like GAC. Yeah other companies lay-off but their pretty specific about it. Like when GAC cleaned out the Security team a few years ago. If one department is getting out of control because Jimbo hired all his cousin-in-laws. Other companies would step in and stop that. At GAC all the cousin-in-laws are directors or better and didn’t sweat the lay-off. I’ve worked with and for 2-3 people teams turning wrenches on Cessna 150s to shaking hands with the owners of the most posh BBJs you’ve ever seen. I keep waiting on Boeing to flinch with their issues but they don’t. I went to work with a small 135 startup that got a great deal on some Vietnam era British cargo planes. We were jointly based with an FBO and I remember the owner walking in to the FBO distraught. He called us into the hangar and I witnessed a man suffer a mental breakdown when he had to tell us the economic realities of the situation. Every employee there would have emptied their savings to keep the company going if we could have. I don’t know an employee at GAC that would pee on their directors head if it was on fire, unless he’s their cousin. So no, I can’t give you another company that doesn’t do layoffs nor can I give you one that does them more incompetent and mindless than GAC. I’ve sat for years watching Jimbos cousin in law bloviate about “the gulfstream way” and talk trash about our vendors, many of whom I’ve worked with in the past. The problem is GAC. If you’re a local and “getting on at Gulfstream” is your dream.... good luck. I’m moving on.
Would you please name a company in the aviation (in any industry for that matter) that does not have layoffs/rifs and performs at 100% efficiency and efficacy in all metrics?
So sick of hearing “it’s aviation”. The leadership should understand the market volatility and not play Russian roulette with peoples livelihood every 5 years. It’s just bad management. They are also clueless on how to sweep out under performers and just use the RIF as a means to clean house every once in a while. Yet they only ever get the defenseless... never the brother in law that’s sitting in a Director position. Speaks volumes to the hiring practices and employee growth at GAC. Just look at how they fumbled and bumbled handling the layoff....you trust these people to run a company as complex as GAC? And you want to blame it on the market sector? Is it just the aviation industry that locks 400 people out of the office without notice?
It's aviation. Furloughs/RIFs are always a possibility. If you were blindsided by this then you do not know aviation.
I put my resume out and have a lot of good hits. I’m running! Heard today furloughs are coming, even though they lied to us and said weren’t. Don’t trust corporate propaganda