Thread regarding Allscripts layoffs

Allscripts RIF Today 11/14/19

Looks like some layoffs happening here the week before thanksgiving!

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Layoffs again last week - good that Allscripts can hide behind COVID this time - they usually have 2 a year as they can’t make real numbers or sell net new core solutions. Wonder how the Black “gang” survive with year over year EPS decline since his hire. Must have pictures and audio. What a shame really good people exposed to greedy and inept leadership.

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Post ID: @2gxco+121CiCE8

On the layoff follow-up call the next day discussing openings there were at least 80 people on it, and that was just for Development jobs.

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Post ID: @1qjuo+121CiCE8

I wish I had been one of those that were laid off. Was told I had a new manager in August. I haven't heard one word from this person in 4 months. I feel like i am working in a vacuum.

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Post ID: @shrw+121CiCE8

Sad to say but this is typical pattern for most US companies these days. Ramp up hiring when you have the contracts and then layoff the more expensive US employees when the work is done and replace with cheaper over seas workers. Hire, layoff, out source, repeat...

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Post ID: @lcji+121CiCE8

I counted 89 or so in my package...had ages next to them. Mostly those in 40s and 50s.

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Post ID: @lapt+121CiCE8

Those 15 were only under one division. Each division was listed separate to not make it look bad. There was over 250 people. Yes all Americans as the company tries to run off cheap Indian labor. Any US employee needs to know that the next cut could be you. The company products are not good enough to compete and pay top management big salaries and bonuses. (Just do a search for allscripts vs any competitor) The only way they can show a profit is cutting US workers and replacing with Indian workers. Eventually this strategy will fail and the company will need to declare bankruptcy or be bought out. Hopefully at that time top management will be let go

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Post ID: @jzad+121CiCE8

"15 people let go I think, at least that's what is in the separation letter where they state the titles and ages of those affected."

That is interesting. There were far more than 15 people let go so if HR was showing the list of people let go at 15 they were cherry picking the list to make it looks better than it is. BTW, I have not seen anyone who is part of the "young professionals" new hire that was let go – plenty of US based people with significant experience but none of the newbies, or the India component.

I don't suggest a lawsuit but I do believe that HR has some dirty laundry that would not look very good if it came out. Targeting based on age? Targeting based on US jobs? Wouldn't Trump have a tweet or two about that

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Post ID: @ipzk+121CiCE8

An entire analytics group was wiped out in Raleigh. Some of them were give extra time to complete a project and others were dismissed that day. Have heard other groups also impacted but no hard facts on other locations or exact number. The company is not forthcoming about this to those of us that remain. Honesty would be nice. Instead we report a “great” quarter and layoff people with many years of domain knowledge and experience.

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Post ID: @7evl+121CiCE8

15 people let go I think, at least that's what is in the separation letter where they state the titles and ages of those affected.

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Post ID: @6glk+121CiCE8

After the ROF notifications here in Alpharetta, they had the audacity to blast an email to everyone about the Holiday party. That was like a kick in the gut to those of us that were aRIF’d. Guess they have the extra money to party, how nice and, Merry Christmas. 😡

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Post ID: @5oni+121CiCE8

So jealous to these guys who received their package. I have been waiting for mine for more than two years.

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Post ID: @5tro+121CiCE8

anybody know how many were let go?

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Post ID: @4sqk+121CiCE8

Even with a large layoffs, stock still cannot increase. Only shows investors are not stupid to buy into a company that cannot produce. Until upper and middle management is removed, the company will never make money.

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Post ID: @4shj+121CiCE8

I got RIF’d on Thursday too ... 25 years/ 26 weeks which is the max severance ...

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Post ID: @4lxm+121CiCE8

I got laid off but it was a good thing. I have been with the company over 30 years (McKesson and then Allscripts). I was looking to retire soon so the severance gives 5 more months pay than I would have had.

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Post ID: @4fhx+121CiCE8

What is the severance package? 2 weeks for each year?

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Post ID: @4hvr+121CiCE8

This company is trash. Get out while you still can before they wreck their reputation completely.

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Post ID: @3zhh+121CiCE8

Just another way for the dying company to show better earnings. They don’t care about the clients or the employees. All the top brass looks to do is line their pockets.

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Post ID: @3fnn+121CiCE8

121CiCE8-2caw Not a troll. After what was done to WJ; I could never defend the management of Allscripts.

I got whacked a couple years back. To get my severance I had sign a release.

So basically they paid me four months salary to go away. I took it and moved on. I really didn’t want to work under the cloud of layoffs anymore. After a few years; it takes its toll.

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Post ID: @3ydk+121CiCE8

@121CiCE8-2onc A case could be made for a lawsuit but it would be very hard to prove and require paying a lawyer out of pocket. If you read the severance contract, if you want your severence package then you agree to not pursue litigation. If you do want to sue then you're stepping into a very long process you'll lose because Allscripts has better lawyers. Being laid off as a result of poor management and the benefits of globalisation/off shoring has become standard today. These companies have us with our backs against the wall with no other recourse than to sign on the dotted line.

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Post ID: @3wks+121CiCE8

Maybe your severance package was better than mine..or you are an Allscripts troll trying to minimize the effects of corporate wrongdoings

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Post ID: @2caw+121CiCE8

For those considering legal action, read your severance package. I personally decided to take the severance and move on. To me it wasnt worth a lot of bitter feelings to fight it. Its not like I wanted my job back anyway and the severance was a bridge to something better.

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Post ID: @2hww+121CiCE8

anybody thinking of filing a EEOC or retain a lawyer for discrimination since the layoff, in our group, were US based on very skilled employees who were RIF'd in favor of India folks with no skill, medical background/knowledge, poor metrics, poor customer satisfaction...who require constant help and guidance.

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Post ID: @2onc+121CiCE8

A typical procedure for this company, as more clients leave their products are so badly developed and supported that prospective clients go elsewhere. If it wasn't for the cost to convert, they would probably be out of business

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Post ID: @2ada+121CiCE8

This is just the beginning. Be prepared for several more rounds before the year end.

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Post ID: @2nzj+121CiCE8

Allscripts is no longer in the business of software innovation and patient management. Like many of their customers, they are experts in billing and layoffs. Sad but true. Look at any hospital they partner with.

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Post ID: @1ond+121CiCE8

It is a common practice for this company. Once their reputation is destroyed they will buy another company and use their name to try and sell their software. Maybe upper management should get the cut

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Post ID: @1oou+121CiCE8

They do it before you go out and spend your paycheck on Black Friday Xmas gifts. How thoughtful! (Sarcasm)

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Post ID: @1cyc+121CiCE8

Not uncommon when a company is facing a sh– year-end, utilization reports are worse month-over-month, general moral is tanking across all product lines, and of course the lightening of the load has to occur before Thanksgiving to the Sr level mgmt bonuses can be hefty. Then, around comes Q220 and the hiring craze begins again when customers turn to legal options to exit contracts. As with every company, it's who you know... sometimes, it's your insanely high salary - but if you know the right people, you can avoid the chopping block.
Every year the Allscripts name and reputation gets worse. The laughable quarterly earnings call continue to be just that - laughable. And the stock price is telling. Participating in the ESPP is pissing away the money you are about to stop earning when you get the call... just before the holidays.
Good luck to you. And yes, Happy Holidays. :-(

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Post ID: @1emg+121CiCE8

Got that call today! Oh well maybe it's a good thing Kind of cold though that their MO has always been to do this kind of stuff going into the Holidays. 6 years with McKesson and 2 with Allscripts after they acquired EIS from McKesson. Wishing everyone well and good luck going forward who are also going through this.

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Post ID: @xyx+121CiCE8

ROUND ONE... for Allscripts

Sprucing up the resume!

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Post ID: @bee+121CiCE8

So glad I got out of that dump when I did. my entire time there, it was apparent that executive management and the board of directors were all completely clueless. they thought that buying or merging with other companies could save their sorry asses, but that obviously hasn't been the case. anytime you have an organization that doesn't care about employees, clients, or patients, it is going to fail like allscripts does. Additionally when there is a manager or director or some other type of management for every two or three employees, it is doomed. The goal of all scripts is to line the pockets of those at the top at the expense of everybody else.

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Post ID: @aan+121CiCE8

They’re toast.... layoffs needed to keep the balance sheet stable.

Allscripts is in deep risky debt. Can’t pay bills on time. Losing clients. Recession coming. It’s a good place to work if you’re an unpaid intern but a bad place for a career. Wonder what they use to secure lines of credit.

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Post ID: @axl+121CiCE8

I was in CDO out of Alpharetta. Just got a call this morning my position had been “eliminated”.

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Post ID: @qjw+121CiCE8

Does anyone know what product lines got hit? All I heard about was Sunrise specifically from folks I know, and then second hand that TW got hit.

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Post ID: @xiv+121CiCE8

Confirmed. Across the board layoffs in Support & CDO operations. So glad they posted how strong we are in the past earnings call.

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