Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

only 2 real reasons to take the offer

  1. you are ready to leave anyway
  2. you dont want to talk to the next employer in an interview about being fired
  3. eventually only a skeleton crew will be left 2020 is going to see a massive reduction, follow budgets, which there is no new work
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From experience it is my belief that being honest, but not excruciatingly so, is the best way to handle such inquiries. People get laid off everywhere/all the time, and it is the rare hiring manager who doesn't understand that this may not be your fault.
Present yourself extremely well, first on paper then at interviews (ie work on it HARD beforehand), research your target employer in depth (you do want to work there, right?) so you can talk about their business. This has the effect of shifting focus from your recent background to your interests and knowledge, and people love to talk about themselves so help them do so and you win.
Come armed with at least 3 questions for each interviewer, show up a few minutes early, well dressed and projecting an alert and curious persona. This is not to say you should lie - in general be yourself, but be the best version of yourself. Smile. A lot. Do NOT use your phone during the interview or even place it on the table like it is a life-saving d–g that you must have instant access to -even if it is. Ladies, particularly so. Presumably, you have a purse. Use it.
I got laid off at 52 (now 60) and hired by ATT at the same salary as the outgoing job. Yes I was lucky in some ways but I did all of the above as well (well, being male I did not see the need for a purse).
Again, be honest but don't offer detail beyond what is necessary/requested. Many HMs are trained to spot untruths/exaggerations and even if they don't catch it at the time it will eventually become a burden to you.

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Post ID: @124TzU0c-3mbs

if you get surplussed, you are getting fired. you may not want to see that, but that's the facts. you can kid yourself into believing you should still be working but you were selected to be let go.

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Post ID: @124TzU0c-1eri

I'm thinking it's a distinction without a difference. You're going to tell them on job interviews that you just decided to look for another job after 20 years for no particular reason. You weren't being forced out, right? They'd probably think something was wrong with you if they believed that story anyway. If you were leaving AT&T cause you got tired of the job, you're going to do the same to them. Not to mention you must assume they don't know how to use Google and see there was a mass downsizing just in the news.

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Post ID: @124TzU0c-1lil

Even though this is a managerial voluntary offer... if you accept it... you can still make a UI Claim.... there is a good chance you can have it granted... ... when you are asked why you left... be forthright and say you volunteered due to the Company Downsizing.... the Company will have a paper saying you volunteered and acknowledge you cannot file for UI Benefits... but most UI Agents recognize Corporate strategy and will grant due to the force reduction statement... worse that can happen is you get denied... this advice is for both Managers and craft.... just don’t get fired....

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Post ID: @124TzU0c-1hev

You'd only be fired if you did something wrong like steal from the company or break a rule, and this isn't the same as being laid off. However, T only provides service dates anyhow so if interviewing at a new company you don't have to disclose the reason.

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Post ID: @124TzU0c-1cow

In response to - Being surplus or layed off is not fired.

Not technically or on paper, but I am still out of work and it was not my choice

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Post ID: @124TzU0c-1dfj

Being surplus or layed off is not fired.

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Post ID: @124TzU0c-1sda

@zjn

Wow, such a defeatist attitude. According to you no one near or beyond the age of 50 could be employed elsewhere for more than minimum wage? Brilliant. Meanwhile everyone I know in that category that left T over the last several years is gainfully employed; some are doing better financially now than they were while they were here. It’s about your network more than anything. Do you not have one? Guessing not.

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Post ID: @124TzU0c-rzh

@zjn

project much?

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Post ID: @124TzU0c-tna

ok, that's three reasons but who is counting.

For #2, "you dont want to talk to the next employer in an interview about being fired" - It is very, VERY, VERY hard to get any job, other than a SprawlMart greeter, or Home Depot shelve stocker, if you are anywhere close to 50 - unless you are good sales person. But I was told that sales people (those on the commission pay plans) were not given this offer. So don't quick and expect to get any job that pays more than minimum wage if you are near 50. You will get interviews, but once they see you in an interview or your paperwork and can figure out your age they won't return you calls.

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Post ID: @124TzU0c-zjn

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