Thread regarding Symantec Corp. layoffs

Question on Severance

If you decline the offer will you get Severance- what is the HR policy on this

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In many eu countries, if you don't sign, they will have to fire you and you will get a fat severance
EU is not the wild west.

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Post ID: @fikg+12CF6zzO

In the UK we were automatically transfered under TUPE. However, they breached the conditions defined in law, as advised by at least 3 seperate solicitors and the UK representatives. This alone puts Broadcom at liability for an employment tribunal, which pays up to 13 weeks pay per employee.

Broadcom further want employees to sign new offers because they dont want to honour the Symantec Terms and Conditions. There is a clause which means you give up all your previous employment rights under your Symantec contract.

Broadcom want to harmonise all contracts with existing employees. This is all illegal of course, but they know its unlikley anyone will go through the effort of taking them to court over it.

So, in the UK we are in a position where we are employed by Broadcom and still have the rights to our previous Terms and Conditions, but would sign those away and replace them with BCs. In my case, I'm significantly worse off if I sign.

Not signing puts us in a strange condition because we are still strictly employed by BC but just not under their Terms.

IMHO you do not 'resign' by not signing. You simply don't agree with the changes they want to make to the existing contract you have with them (your TUPEd Symantec one)

Therefore, it is Broadcom who will need to end your employment. But they can't "fire" you sibce you did nothing wrong. That's normally where severance comes in. They would agree to pay you an amount to leave and not take them to tribunual for unfair dismisal .

Unfortunatley, that amount is unknown and depends on who you are and what you can negotiate. Also, knowing BCs unethitcal behaviour, they will just illegally terminate you and wait for your solicitors letter threatening to take them to tribunual before they do anything.

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Post ID: @cyyb+12CF6zzO

So most of these responses are incorrect. Due to varying rules based on location I would recommend you submit an HR ticket to NortonLifeLock HR (since that is your employer if you’re on a TSA). I did this very thing and the response I got was this:

Since this is now post closing, if you receive and offer from Broadcom you have the option to either accept the offer or decline and receive a severance from NortonLifeLock.

Only those that received offers prior to close did not have that option.

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Post ID: @7aee+12CF6zzO

I'm new around but as far I understand if you don't accept you're fired and don't get the severance, but you can sue Broadcom later if there is a reason for that. If you accept, you won't be able to sue them, you accepted their terms.

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Post ID: @6elc+12CF6zzO

It is worth checking with your local representation. As such, if you decline, it will be counted as a resignation on your part, which means no severance. However, at CA, in some regions (such as Skandinavia) employees were able to push for severance due to admin errors in the offer letters themselves. These employees never signed or declined the offer letter and got the severance, but if you work in the UK or Ireland you will probably be out of luck.

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Post ID: @4tlf+12CF6zzO

Dude, just accept and use the time to find something else. I’ve spoken to some former CA people, their view is it’s only a matter of time when they’ll cut people, regardless of where you work. So many are sitting tight, doing their work, s—ing up as needed while looking for other jobs.

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Post ID: @3vmj+12CF6zzO

@12CF6zzO-3wij
Not accepting means declining.

@12CF6zzO-shn
This might be the case in your region. In others however that's not the case and when you're being offered a position that's not comparable to your current position you don't have to accept it either a d can walk away with a severance. Check your local law on that.

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Post ID: @3dsw+12CF6zzO

What if we neither accept nor decline?

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Post ID: @3wij+12CF6zzO

It was written in one of the emails we received weeks or days ago , you should read your emails including the attachment.

If you decline an offer , you won't get anything but to leave with empty hands. This is logic and it's in the labor law.

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