Thread regarding GE Power layoffs

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I'm old enough to remember when GE wouldn't look at you unless you at least had a High School Diploma. Nobody with a GED was even looked at. The opinion was that you already proved you were a quitter and they didn't want anybody working for them that could give up and quit when things got a little tough. You couldn't get a job to push a broom without a diploma. GE never advertised their job openings to the public because there was always a line waiting outside the door of qualified potential workers with a diploma or higher. GE always had the best that the local community had to offer. THOSE DAYS ARE OVER IN SCHENECTADY!!!!! There has been a huge decline in the quality of those who apply for a job at GE over the last couple of decades. As a result, GE lowered their standards. We have numerous drop outs with GEDs working in Schenectady now. When there's a job opening, it's advertised in the papers and elsewhere because that line is gone or compiled of a few drop outs with addictions. They have to advertise even for the most basic entry level jobs!! GE has been sc-aping the bottom of the barrel for a very long time and not finding much of anything to make it worth their while. Everyday it gets worse not only in GE but also in the surrounding local area. It has been on the decline since the 80's! The well has run dry and when you run out of the source you need for survival, you either move to a new source and live or stay put and slowly die. Take your ego out of it because it's inflated anyways and look around. Nobody is hungry to perform. Nobody is aggressive to accomplish the difficult tasks. The people here used to hunt for areas of difficulty and make them better. You could see the passion in their eyes. You don't see that anymore. All that hard work made it too easy and comfortable for the current workforce in Schenectady. Now they struggle just to come in, stay awake, write a coherent sentence, or to lift themselves out of a chair. They were busting their asses so that we wouldn't have to bust our asses as hard today. Not so that we could just sit on them and claim it's difficult!! You know I'm right!

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Post ID: @Gjnt+14PFLcxw

@2dke+14PFLcxw nailed it.

The attitude displayed by the hourly workforce in 273 isn't only due to union membership. It is common among most of the semi-literate, barely high school educated blue collar employees I've worked with in the past.

The "I don't need no fancy book learnin', I got common sense" crowd simply lacks the mental horsepower to adapt to change. Thinking apparently gives them a headache.

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Post ID: @Dbcc+14PFLcxw

Layoffs are what happen when you pay employees for an 8 hour shift and get 4 hours of labor. Stop blaming GE for these layoffs and look in the mirror. That's who is to blame. Listen to all the retired GE workers that continue to brag about how much money they made AND how little work they performed to get that money. The Union should be ashamed of itself for its continued pandering to the lazy workforce they protect. Well.... now the gig is up. Stan the Ax man is driving the train and you know what that means?? Plant closings.... enjoy the fruits (layoffs) of your non-labor.

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Post ID: @Abed+14PFLcxw

St_ve Bart__ick helped destroy our form and taping process one stupid six sigma project at a time. Tell us how great we are when on the floor and then make jokes about us in the office. Just another lacky looking for a leg up.

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Post ID: @ackt+14PFLcxw

Setting up Schenectady to fail! Look at these engineering crew they have now! One engineer could not write a method for a Big Mac burger and that is where he came from. Straight out of college to hamburger university to GE bar shop. Then moved on to another area where he can dig in his buttocks with less people around.

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Post ID: @6mdb+14PFLcxw

These 9ec bars they are forming now the tbfm can not handle them the brazeheads arent melting the alloy like they should be being the brazen cycle is more programmed for speed then effectiveness so the heat isnt getting to the bars on top of the wrong alloy being used but once again that's what the formers are told to do.

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Post ID: @6xjk+14PFLcxw

@5yae+14PFLcxw I'm not saying what you're saying is entirely wrong but when we as operators are told to continue to process or bars that are oversized and undersized are continue to process after being qcrd that's not solely as an operator I for one havent had many I'd at all any issues with my taping. But for the most part we do what we are told by the ever changing managerial staff if we bring up an issue even though we know its wrong we are told to tape it anyways

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Post ID: @6yzy+14PFLcxw

Schenectady is on the way out. To many years high pay and benefits and low productivity. It happens to most all manufacturing in US.

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Post ID: @6oph+14PFLcxw

The results of the Ohio Coil Service Center closing finally realized. Most of their employees had 40+ years of service.

Too many try to place blame on a single entity however the reality is that its failure across the board. People simply don’t care like they use to and /or are not pressured to improve themselves. Doesn’t matter whether you are hourly or salary.

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Post ID: @5qcw+14PFLcxw

Schenectady bars have had form/fit problems for decades. It isn’t something new. The problem is that nothing seems to fix it. There Have been scores of six sigma projects meant to address the problem with no real change. Implementation of a state of the art bar former that is used with great success by our competitors apparently has not helped. Extensive study and manipulation of the primary and secondary materials has not helped. The vast array of projects that have been worked over the years have ran the full development ark with some using a huge amount of input from seasoned hourly manufacturing folks while other projects were strictly text book application....and everything in between. The bar quality problems still exist.
The bar shop has had problems for a very long time. The historic sc-ap and rework rates have become unacceptable in todays operating environment. Half measures have proven not to work. Complete process and equipment changes have not worked. What’s left?
Send the bar production somewhere else......which by the way will be what eventually happens to the entire Schenectady generator/turbine manufacturing facility.
But hey, what do I know. It’s not like I worked there for 23 years before I went to the completion and saw that bars can be accurately reproduced in volume. From everything I have gleaned in a 30 year generator manufacturing career, the greatest factor that contributes to bar quality is not tooling or process (although these are important) but attention to detail from operators throughout the process. If you shrug your shoulders and say “good enough” when you know it may not be, don’t be surprised at the outcome. Unskilled hands often blame their tools, and this has always been one of Schenectady’s number one excuses.

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Post ID: @5yae+14PFLcxw

One guy use to tell me all the time and some of these id–t engineers, quit trying to reinvent the wheel. I always say if it's not broke dont fix it, what I'm getting at is there was no need to bring in a 6 million dollar form to f— up bars no reason to get rid of the manual tape machines and no reason to go to a one piece flow that will not work until the 6 million dollar form is perfected. Has absolutely nothing to do with union employees, will I admit there are some lazy ones absolutely there is.

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Post ID: @5esw+14PFLcxw

Nate Anderson was brought in to close the bar shop after it is messed up so by his newly implemented policies.

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Post ID: @3irl+14PFLcxw

The problem for the advanced manufacturing engineering folks in Schenectady is that they are attempting the equivalent of bringing fire to Paleolithic man. When energetic, educated people attempt to actually integrate new concepts into the manufacturing process, the typical low browed union employee begins to shreek, hoot, aggressively stamp their feet, and rend their simple animal hide garments in confusion and fear of something new that they may need to understand.
How do you expect to make things better at Schenectady when the union work forces main concern is something along the lines of trying to get free Cpap machines installed at each work station as part of their next contract so that employees can safely and comfortably nap after working a 3 hour shift.
The plant continues to circle the drain on a downward spiral that started nearly twenty years ago in great part due to the fact that the hourly work force consists of a pungent cesspool of humanity that is rampant with poor work ethic, alcoholism, substance abuse, absenteeism, theft, near illiteracy, and condones a culture of militancy toward salaried staff.

“If they were paid more, they would do more”
“If management just left them alone, they would get it done right”
“Give them more overtime and they'll get more done”
“Stop pushing the methods down their throat and just let them do it like they always did - they never had this problem before”
“I know that it’s 11:00 AM and they’re sleeping, but they got their numbers for the day.”

I can only imagine how they talk at the dinner table......
“You kids have no idea how hard I work every day to put food on this table.”

The place needs more Stanleys and Nathans and hourly employees that actually give a sh– and want to make quality product rather than work hard at trying to do nothing.

Thank god I left when KS ran the place. At least he knew how to paint a t–d so it looked good to the rest of the business.

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Post ID: @2dke+14PFLcxw

Wait you've been to Greenville to see some of the chalk board fulfillment times

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Post ID: @1bid+14PFLcxw

Seems like everything at ge power in Schenectady has gone down hill since stan genega and nate anderson were brought in. I remember someone saying to me nate anderson was a genius lmfao

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Post ID: @1pdj+14PFLcxw

I wonder what kind of work or lack there of the barshop has in store for us tonight

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Post ID: @1plg+14PFLcxw

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