Thread regarding Enbridge Inc. layoffs

Voluntary retirement

What is this voluntary retirement and opportunities for reduced work all about?

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Post ID: @OP+14QNwMFp

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hes 30correct...never at union gas, for unionized workers has there been early retirement packages offered

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Post ID: @3nwa+14QNwMFp

Actually that is incorrect. There was an offer for early retirement for all workers unionized and non unionized at Enbridge Gas Distribution in the late 90's during the first so called reorg. I know a few unionized employees in Work Management that took it

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Post ID: @3kxw+14QNwMFp

there has never been, and will never be an early retirement package for unionized employees.

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Post ID: @3zqr+14QNwMFp

If Al and the other ELT members hadn’t so badly weakened the Enbridge corporate culture over the past six or so years, the company would be in a stronger position to weather the current crisis. How can Al expect employees to be allies when he’s treated so many of them like enemies for such a long time?

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Post ID: @3lzf+14QNwMFp

I wonder how many people the company really wants to take the package? It seems they may not give it to everyone that wants one. There will be an even bigger morale problem if people volunteer to retire ane then they find out the can't have the package. What a mess!

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Post ID: @3jmn+14QNwMFp

Oh Enbridge and their conceited management... “America has no one but our precious pipelines”.
Hmm. Saudi Arabia: “Hold me beer”
There are always choices to the market but not always what you think they are

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Post ID: @2bvm+14QNwMFp

By all means, if anyone is in a position to take one of these packages, please do. It’s going to help the rest of us out and I really don’t think you’ll be missing any good times here at Enbridge. I’m sure we’ll have a lot of good people with indispensable knowledge and skills walk out and that makes me sad, but these are strange times and I have a feeling that whatever we complained about in the past is going to seem like small potatoes by the end of the year. I don’t mean to suggest we’ll suddenly wake up and think Enbridge isn’t as evil as we thought, I just mean the worst is yet to come. I’m about halfway through my career and I can tell you I’ll be looking to get out of oil and gas as soon as I can, but options are limited right now obviously, so I’m hunkering down for a couple more years of this roller coaster.

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Post ID: @1uun+14QNwMFp

Yeah but they could also stay and force cuts across the board instead of being able to "take one for the team."
Retirement alone isn't incentive to leave for any of them.

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Post ID: @1uzw+14QNwMFp

They can walk whenever they like....holding out for a payout doesn't help the company, just increases financial obligations after they are gone.

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Post ID: @1ilg+14QNwMFp

Long term contracts? Yes.
If you haven't checked the news lately, no one is buying oil out of Alberta. The pipeline has turned in to storage. Companies are going to want out of any contracts with Enbridge.
Fleets of tankers are coming to America with cheap oil.
The world is going to sh–.
NG usage is going to be down.
People won't be paying bills.
This is going to force the company to maximize profits in other areas in order to keep the dividend going.
Plus these old-timers are at the end of their career. Let them walkaway so the rest of us can live on.

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Post ID: @1gfu+14QNwMFp

I know there are a hell of a lot of us with lots of seniority who want the packages. I’ve already talked to at least 10 people who want them.

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Post ID: @1wce+14QNwMFp

Long term contracts? The union has fought to maintain your job security over the many years, negotiating on your behalf for better pay / benefits, and now you want to give that all up so the senior members (you) can get a payout/retirement package and the employees left lose year to year job security.

Get off the anonymous board, go to your local, put your name behind this idea and be prepared to get laughed out of the room.

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Post ID: @1jkp+14QNwMFp

Not letting the fox into the hen house with that idea.

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Post ID: @1cfo+14QNwMFp

Thinking that the company is not going to go with contractors for menial and insignificant work is not very realistic.
I know this is tough to hear, but Union Gas is DEAD!
Skilled labour still needs the locals though. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. We can make a short term concession of letting some senior members go for longer term contracts for everyone else.
We shouldn't have to sacrifice the future for the past.

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Post ID: @1wch+14QNwMFp

Then vote them out. Run for office yourself. or retire

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Post ID: @1fqw+14QNwMFp

When you say looking out for the union as a whole, you mean protecting union dues so executives can go on junkets on the backs of the members paying dues.

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Post ID: @1lxv+14QNwMFp

Its simple. As a union we look out for the entire Union as a whole, not the single wishes of one member. The union must remain strong and must continue to hold or increase our members.

If you are unsatisfied you can raise it to the executive and if you are not happy make it know by how you vote on contracts or elections of executives. The majority rules on these matters. If enough want it, then it would happen. But that will be highly unlikely. Goes totally against what we stand for.

If you are of age to retire then you should. We fought hard for good pensions and you have one. Holding out for something extra is not right. We didnt work hard to establish our union to then ask for handouts. We want working long term permanent members. Your dues went to keeping you employed and protected from these layoffs.

The non union people do not have this protection. If there are not enough non union volunteers, then they will move to forcing people to leave. And some will be younger people who are not eligible for a pension yet. This doesn't happen to you because the Union protects you. Again if the doesn't sit right with you, then you should not be a union member

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Post ID: @1pim+14QNwMFp

Here’s the opinion that 95% of employees probably share: news of the job cuts and VWO is tough but we’re grateful the policies are logical, fair and the communication was direct and honest. Contrast that to the BS we received from the weil-sel regarding mandatory vacation days and you’ll understand why most are more upset about the vacation policies than having their salary trimmed.

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Post ID: @1yuc+14QNwMFp

No. I just want to know what the thousands or 10’s of thousands of dollars I’ve paid in union dues over my career was for if they won’t look out for my interests at this point in my career.

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Post ID: @1fua+14QNwMFp

We will not allow this as the Union survives on maximizing members. Less members, less dues, less money and a weaker union. If they offered it to us Union members, the jobs would not be replaced and eventually more contractors would be doing the work.

Sorry but this is about solidarity for our union brothers and sisters. We want a strong union and an ongoing presence at Enbridge. Maybe you should not be a union member in the first place

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Post ID: @1mjr+14QNwMFp

If they were asked and the union said no that’s pretty upsetting. Not sure why I’m paying my union dues. I’ve been sticking around in a pretty physical job for a long time hoping a package would come my way. Roll back my wages 3% and give me a big check to leave. I’d take that.

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Post ID: @1fnv+14QNwMFp

Don’t forget, your union also protected you from the pay cut.

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Post ID: @1jvt+14QNwMFp

Talk to your Union Executives. I can guarantee they were asked and said no.

Unions never agree to layoffs of any kind.

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Post ID: @1lsp+14QNwMFp

I saw the notes from AM and MW this morning. I think its extremely unfair that it only applies to non-union employees. If we want to retire I’m not sure why the company won’t offer it to us to make it worth our while.

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Post ID: @vmi+14QNwMFp

So did anyone who owns shares, which most of us do. Retirement account is getting a good bump on this news

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Post ID: @bxg+14QNwMFp

So Al is saying he took 15% haircut. Isn’t that only on his base wage which is only like 500000$? The stock jumped today by about 6%, which He has millions of dollars of. So big Al really made a tonne of money today.

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Post ID: @chg+14QNwMFp

The guy whining about a 3% haircut....the economy is booming. Take your awesome skill sets, 2 or 3 professional degrees and find a better job. But then, you say 3%, so you haven’t even made Director yet!

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Post ID: @eeu+14QNwMFp

Not only retirement it’s a voluntary severance too for those under 53. Granted most people need their jobs right now but if you were tinkering with the idea of retirement before I would take the dough and never look back. Could end up with a brain drain and then the company will be screwed.

Don’t think this is the last of it unless a lot of folks bail.

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Post ID: @sfc+14QNwMFp

I guessing anybody who gets a voluntary retirement package better jump on it. Probably better deal than the involuntary one to follow. Life for those that remain will s— balls as Enbridge slowly circles the drain.

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Post ID: @hmy+14QNwMFp

In reference to the comments about Enbridge employees who are complaining about this mornings announcement, I could not agree with them more.

Anyone at Enbridge who is still working and is being paid ( especially to work at home, where you are incurring less costs ( your not driving to work ). Need to have a serious gut check.

Be grateful.

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Post ID: @yvu+14QNwMFp

Layoffs are coming. Every company is doing it. I would guess contract workers first

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Post ID: @rlq+14QNwMFp

You are totally out of touch. This is a pandemic like the world has never seen. Try putting yourself in the shoes of the millions of people who have totally lost their jobs, through no fault of their own, and are now simply trying to keep themselves and their kids fed with a roof over their heads. And facing an uncertain future as to when and whether they will work again and what type of job they have. The amounts the government is supplying does not meet most peoples needs. It helps but it is not enough.

I doubt they would have much sympathy with your 3% pay cut. Stop being selfish. Be grateful you still have a job or at least will have the opportunity to receive something in a payout. Millions of people never did get that. The world has changed, maybe forever, so better get use to it.

Again stop being so selfish.

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Post ID: @vkl+14QNwMFp

Hey! I look great after my 3% haircut!
I love making less than I did in 2018.
AM giveth, and AM taketh away......

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Post ID: @pge+14QNwMFp

Why don’t you look at the information that was provided, instead of asking a public, anonymous lay-off board?

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Post ID: @qmc+14QNwMFp

Yep if they dont get the number to volunteer they will make the choice. Wont consukt the people leaders either. Age and paygrade are key. Older and higher first

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Post ID: @ayo+14QNwMFp

This is phase 1. The involuntary phase will be next.

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