Thread regarding GE Power layoffs

More Big Cuts at GE Power

I’m a GE retiree and have kept in contact with several friends who work at GE Power sites all along the US east coast. This is the first time any of us remember seeing voluntary job elimination being floated without a compensation package being offered to sweeten the deal. It Smells of corporate desperation.
The best move Power could make in the short term is to dump the Schenectady site. The Schenectady plant is an old, rotting shell of its former self from its golden years of the 1970’s. Most of the equipment is old, most of the union employees work like they are old, and the management teams there implement old ideas. It’s a dump and a drain on the business.
The scuttle-but that I’ve heard is that there will be two big rounds of management layoffs in 2020 before end of Q3. One will focus primarily on E-band employees and the other will target the standard management fodder. Union layoffs to follow those - and they will be big for east coast segments of power. Two factory closings in the US (not sure if they will be large sites or something small like a service shop - there are lots of those so who knows). Lastly, more massive cuts coming across the pond in GE Power by the end of 2020. I hear that many sites will be closed while remaining sites will be reinforced and bolstered with tech investment and manpower.
Sorry for the harsh words earlier about Schenectady for anyone that works there. I worked at seven US sites across GE power during a 35 year career and I know that a few sites are still exceptional while many plants have become despairing holes of union distinction and corporate mismanagement. Schenectady has been the worst in both those regards for decades. When ever I took tours (4 times) of that site it was common to see union slobs sleeping with their feet on tables at all times of the day, and their manager walking by them as though it was part of the job. During my last tour, picture phones were just becoming whitely available and I took many pictures of the relaxed and filthy site. I still send a few pictures to the stakeholder outreach group in Boston every 6 months or so to remind them of what an abysmal waste the Schenectady manufacturing site has become. I just can’t help it after seeing so many other plants truly trying and sometimes succeeding at being productive an efficient. Greenville for example, although far from perfect, knew how to get the job done. Ask anyone who spent any time there.
Good luck to everyone at Power.

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GE Power is in deep trouble because of 20 years of gross mismanagement by getting out of manufacturing and sourcing 90% of parts, and installing Six Sigma type managers with little or no product or service experience. It often costs more to ship parts around the world, than to make them and move to next building for turbine assembly. Since this started 20 years ago under Nardelli, GE Power costs and quality / cost of quality has dragged down the entire company where Power can no longer make money. Power used to make around $1.2 Billion on $7 Billion in sales but are now just breaking even after years of billion dollar losses.
Expect further layoffs in a futile attempt to fix this bottoms up cost problem from turning into an low quality outsourcing operation with now 0ut of touch, disconnected high cost bloated beaurocracies like Atlanta locations far away from once cost effective Schenectady and Greenville product centers .

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Post ID: @4Onlb+14jwi5r8

I worked at GE Schenectady in the 1960's as my first job out of college and Vietnam (1st Lt US Army). I loved the place, really nice folks and the restaurants in Schenectady were amazing. I was on the 3 year Mfg Mgt Program with a new assignment every 6 months. The 3 different managers I reported to in Large, Medium, and Small Motors taught me a lot, they treated me like a son. At that time half the population of Schenectady worked at GE. Great memories, and thank you GE for getting me off to a great start, the training was amazing and after 20 years at GE and many moves, I landed a VP job at a high tech company and finished my career in 2008. Back then, GE trained managers were in high demand. Always stopped at an Italian Deli or Polish Deli on the way home to our flat on State St.

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Post ID: @31kyz+14jwi5r8

Look folks, Power has been looking to cut costs while delivering on the backlog of work for the last 2 years. Look at the recent partnerships in the controls (Quest) and procurement (Genpact) divisions. It's only a matter of time before Power is fully outsourced (60-70%) to a low cost country or 3rd party partner. Don't think for a minute your job is safe during this global crisis.

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Post ID: @Jcyi+14jwi5r8

The union will save Schenectady plant one part at a time. Union members will enjoy going above and beyond for the greatest healthcare package in the industry. Union members will stick by each other and support and help one another. The union will walk hand in hand with GE’s management to save power from layoffs. Then the union won’t call GE bluff and give the company back more with no raises.

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Post ID: @zhqx+14jwi5r8

Are you saying GE is desperate ?

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Post ID: @arzs+14jwi5r8

You can't fix stupid and you can't fix Schenectady. They are one in the same. They put more effort into blaming everyone around them than they do into fixing their own self. I've never seen so many people work so hard at not working and all they talk about is how hard they work and how badly they get mistreated. I can't even imagine the stories of injustice they tell when they get home. This place is barely getting by on life support.

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Post ID: @9vet+14jwi5r8

You all are wrong ! GE in Schenectady is a great place. Culp will bring us back. Let’s make GE great again. You liberal slobs !

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Post ID: @8jre+14jwi5r8

GE Schenectady has been pathetically dragging itself around in ever tightening circles of despair like a gut shot dog with broken back legs. The manufacturing facilities are generally antiquated and the union employees are over paid and under skilled. The place sold its soul to the union decades ago and the management team is utterly incompetent. The only light I could see before I left a few years ago was in the engineering groups - but that will not be enough to get the plant right again. The Schenectady manufacturing facility needs to be brought out back, shot in the head, and dumped unceremoniously in a shallow grave. It is nothing but a drain on the rest of the business. Just send it all to Europe where the labor costs are 70% less and people actually Earn their keep.... or at least pack it up and send it to Greenville.
In my 65 years of life, I can honestly say that the most angry, ignorant, entitled, lazy people I met were all GE union employees. Whether seasoned veterans or new off the street, only 1 in 10 was competent and capable.

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Post ID: @8qaa+14jwi5r8

I missed out on a free chicken dinner??? Awww man!!! Of all the days to not be at work.

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Post ID: @6bab+14jwi5r8

Well ge in Schenectady served their employees their last meal yesterday a nice cold chicken parm dinner for 4 handed out by mr army himself stan the man

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Post ID: @6grz+14jwi5r8

Oh trust me I can assure you it isnt the employees that's the problem its management and the engineers with their high expectations and thinking a one piece flow is actually going to get them someplace. Granted you have a few lazy fuks but that's not what's gonna be the downfall of this once great giant

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Post ID: @5vqs+14jwi5r8

The "visible union employees" are the ones giving Schenectady its Biggest Black Eye. The other Black Eye is from the Incompetent Management. Those like the Engineers mostly aren't the problem. All they want to do is design, figure out what makes things tick, and make them better. The Management will put them on wild Goose Chases. When the Engineers come up with a solution for a problem, the union employees still botch it because they are lazy and too simple minded to understand. You need crayons to explain the simplest of things to them. The Engineers are being made to lose on both ends.

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Post ID: @5vjq+14jwi5r8

VJEPS? Are you serious? Who is left to VJEP? What compensation package are you referring to?

One other comment. There were loads of engineers working at the Schenectady site who always found themselves spread very thin and doing the work tasks for 3-4 people, not to mention the constant training of overseas resources in China, Mexico, India, Poland, and France. You only saw one part of the operation, the visible union employees. And keep in mind these engineers had to answer to and reason with managers who had absolutely no clue what they were doing. They simply were made managers because it was "their turn" after being black belts for a year. Slowly, but surely, these actions all are combining to ratchet the business into the ground.

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Post ID: @4shi+14jwi5r8

@OP+14jwi5r8 you are dead on accurate!! Schenectady got too big for their britches in the 80's and were dealt with swiftly. They have never been able to get their act together since then and they should have. Every year it seems like it's the worst it's ever been with the attitude and work ethic. The following year only outdoes the previous year. Too many people still have this belief that they are only required to show up to get paid, if that at all. It will never fix itself. If it could, it would have happened over the past several decades. The whole place needs to be shutdown, stripped clean and then started over from scratch. Anybody who can't get with the new program, can stay outside. We don't need you and we don't want the old ways back ever again!!

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Post ID: @2yop+14jwi5r8

Post ID: @OP+14jwi5r8:

You are strongly urged to attend the stock holders meeting at Boston to raise your concerns or submit an official memo to the CEO and copies to BODs detailing every thing posted here.

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Post ID: @1owk+14jwi5r8

My girl work at Schenec and she say people don’t hardly work. Union say nothing to worry bout cuz that’s just what it’s always been. She always yellin bout rates and they so bad. I think she right.

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