Thread regarding Seagate Technology Inc. layoffs

Is CIO really clueless?

Read the article in CIO mag. Attended the all hands mtg. Know what is actually in production and what is not.
Does the CIO really now what's happening? Or is his staff just YES men?
Or is his plan just keep changing environments?
On prem to CLOUD to on prem.
Notes to Google to Office
iMAP to Workday to ????
The business can't get its work done. It just needs to figure out the new system.

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The truth is, all the old hands are stale and spent. They can’t find jobs and they are incompetent, can’t adjust to change. Technology is about constant change, if you can’t, you perish.

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Post ID: @bayr+14vewj8A

"What’s not clear is, if it’s so bad why are people not leaving?"

Inertia. People stay because they have been at Seagate forever. Big mistake, because many of them won't be there much longer. It's better to leave on your own terms than your employer's. That is true at any company, not just Seagate.

Hard drives are still $$$, but their market share is steadily eroded by SSDs. Seagate is not competitive in the SSD marketplace, so the writing is on the wall. Your life, your choice. I hope you folks choose wisely.

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Post ID: @akmx+14vewj8A

"Stop blaming and starting owning."

  1. e. go get another job as soon as possible. You own your career. People can come up with a million excuses for staying in place, but excuses don't count. I know to that isn't what Seagaters want to hear, but it's the truth.

There is precious little layoff information here. Some of the leakers got laid off, and the rest quit years ago.

Wishing you all well and hope you folks find great new gigs.

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Post ID: @9zds+14vewj8A

Most IT employees in the US are a relic of the past. IT and Finance should move to Asia where most of the action is.

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Post ID: @8lvd+14vewj8A

@3zpd
There WERE lots of jobs out there. You think there will be lots of jobs out there in 1-3 months when the coronavirus damage is in full effect?

Looking for new job is NOT easy. Even if your resume is in good shape already it's probably 1-3 months before you'll get an interview.

And replacing salary if you're relatively senior in your position can take a decent amount longer.

So ok, find another job. Try it yourself. You can probably get a contract job relatively quickly in a month or two. Take a 10-20% pay cut and pay probably 1.5 to 2x for health insurance and other benefits.

Bottom line: YMMV. I don't see a bounce-back like we saw out of 2009. People closer to engineering know how realistic any type of growth is in revenue. It's going to be hard. Even if you don't get hit this time, you're right about one thing: It's better to take actions to be prepared.

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Post ID: @4oun+14vewj8A

Dreams of past glory makes people so sour....Stop living in the past. Wake up to the new reality and take control of your lives. Stop blaming and starting owning.

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Post ID: @3uet+14vewj8A

What’s not clear is, if it’s so bad why are people not leaving? There are so many jobs out there. Something is amiss...

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Post ID: @3zpd+14vewj8A

@htc+14vewj8A: "Google was great but Google's suite was expensive."

Microsoft O365 is significantly more expensive than Google Suite was. Nowhere has IT claimed otherwise.

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Post ID: @2szw+14vewj8A

Strategy- whatever it takes to cut costs
Vision - all Asia based IT
Honesty - who needs that

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Post ID: @2byb+14vewj8A

Zero strategy. Zero vision. Zero honesty.

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Post ID: @2pna+14vewj8A

He is indeed clueless.

At the all hands, someone posed this question - “What’s the next big thing for IT?”

It took him aback. He was speechless for a moment as if he had never thought about it before. In his mind he was probably thinking “what good thing is left in this company for me to destroy?”

He them started to utter something ... ummm, aaaah ... and finally gave some mumbo-jumbo response saying some transformations in the Factory Information Sytems (FIS) .... BUT, concluded by saying that the business has to drive them.

No one dares to say “The Emperor has no clothes.”

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Post ID: @2oiw+14vewj8A

I only worked under Ravi’s regime for a few short months before I was discarded. However, I recall his first all hands meeting when, in referencing cost reductions, said “as a company, we need to standardize on one windows-based computer; too many brands are costly to maintain and we lack purchasing power”. Frankly, I was expecting something a bit more profound from our newly appointed leader ...and then I got it In the form of a severance package. (and I couldn’t be happier!)

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Post ID: @ggy+14vewj8A

Is this only in IT? What about Engineering and Finance? Any news on the impending layoff? Is this the direction from the top across the company or just IT ?

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Post ID: @kgd+14vewj8A

Ravi the Terrible knows next to nothing about technology. He is, however, good at firing people. He fired most of his direct reports and replaced them with sycophants from other companies where he worked. Anything he spews out in all hands meetings is not to be trusted. He is the most hated executive I have encountered. He was like this at other companies before he arrived at Seagate too.

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Post ID: @ktd+14vewj8A

Appreciation of the team? He reduces staff 3 out every 4 years. He has one mandate: cut costs. Google was great but Google's suite was expensive.

His staff is all yes men and women. Pushback will cost you your job.

2019 at the all hands in March he told us all not to worry when financial results weren't great. I got laid off in July. There wasn't an overtly pressing need to do that us it purge. That lets you know how much you should trust Ravi.

And for the record I got a better job at a more stable company and was able to bank 90% of my severance. I should actually thank him. But I won't.

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Post ID: @htc+14vewj8A

You folks live in an alternate self made universe.

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Post ID: @tak+14vewj8A

uuc+14vewj8A
Question were asked but they were censored like many comments teams here have asked. Good night.

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Post ID: @ixx+14vewj8A

Why didn’t you ask this in the meeting? What’s the point of complaining here? These are good questions and you might have been able to get good answers. I think the meeting was good, I felt there was appreciation of the team.

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