Thread regarding Academy Sports & Outdoors layoffs

This is a cruel and stupid policy

I was informed that I called in twice in six months so if I call in two more times, I will get a write up.

One was because I was sick, and the other was because I was helping my mom during the day of her eye surgery.

I didn't think I had any points because I had used PTO time for those days.

I was informed that PTO time is not able to be used the way the old sick time was.

In the past if you had sick days left, there was no harm no foul. Now it doesn't matter if you break your leg or have to go to the ER. You would get points no matter how much PTO you have left or if you apply it to the days missed.

I told him that I knew he didn't make the policy but that it was wrong to penalize people like that for having to call in occasionally and he acted like there was absolutely nothing wrong with it and seemed confused as to why I had a problem with it.

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Post ID: @OP+15KtYDEw

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Points are absolutely used to get rid of someone. It's incredibly hard to get HR to approve the firing of someone. I've seen it first hand. Management uses the point system, which is tracked BY HAND by an employee, to get rid of someone. Those they like will not get points. Those they want to get rid of are held to every point. They log it on an excel sheet. I personally was in charge of the points for months. I was an Operations Lead and was tasked with this, along with other duties that managers were suppose to do. They only care about points of those they want to fire. They tried for MONTHS to fire someone on points and HR rejected it. They only got her because she was 7 minutes late and it would have been 8 minutes by the time she clocked in. She decided to not clock in and say she forgot. They were watching her every move on the cameras to know exactly when she walked in. Instead of just fixing the time without a time exception sheet like they did for everyone else, they had her fill out the form. Because she lied and said she was 6 minutes later instead of 8, they got on her falsifying the document. That's it. Not because of points. She was on a final, but she still would not have been fired. HR had already told them they couldn't fire her because of points. ALWAYS fight the points.

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Post ID: @6Kvsq+15KtYDEw

How many points does management get for making us go out of business?

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Post ID: @ekcp+15KtYDEw

Honestly 4 points is not that bad. Life happens, so everyone will have some level of points. You can thank your coworkers who abused the hell out of the old policy for the changes.

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Post ID: @dvhy+15KtYDEw

I doubt it but they'd probably want proof.
You can take LoA but there's no coming back early, you have to wait the full two weeks.

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Post ID: @6fiy+15KtYDEw

What is you got the COVID? Will you get points for that?

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Post ID: @6cqg+15KtYDEw

How many points do you have? The late system that rolls every three months. As far as I know, even if you used pto they still took points from you.
They used to not care and would look the other way for points but now that they are, shall we say, pinching pennies they are obviously looking for ways to cut people.

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Post ID: @ssd+15KtYDEw

Maybe they are looking to get rid of you for other reasons. Based on personal experience and observations of others, this is an early step to force someone out of the organization. Take a hard look to see who/what is working against you in the past few months. Do you push back when asked to do something? Do you complain about your job a lot at work? Have you been criticized for performance? Do people come up to you to see how you are doing when you are in the office - or do they avoid you? Look for signs. Just don't complain to HR with this. See what you can work on to establish some peace on the job. This is a trying time for a lot of employees and companies are looking to lower headcount.

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