Thread regarding Occidental Petroleum Corp. layoffs

Better companies to work for?

Honest question, after experiencing the culture at Oxy, and seeing so many experienced professionals take the VSP, I think everyone can agree that there is something very wrong with Oxy culture. Are there companies out there that have cultures that are more transparent, honest and merit-based? Or is that something not seen in the energy industry?

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Post ID: @OP+15TkXkch

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I suspect that you have never played in the big leagues before.

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Post ID: @7ars+15TkXkch

LOXY integration members, at all levels, had huge egos.
They came in and acted as though they had similar building facilities to that of the towers - they do not.
They took over the hangar with an air of “yup, we have this” - they did not.
They took on IT saying “we developed x,y,z” - they only took LAPC work and claimed it as their own.
They took our business side initiatives and claimed they thought of it - they used all LAPC materials.

In summary, at least on the corp side of things, LOXY is all mouth and no trousers.

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Post ID: @6hnv+15TkXkch

These are people who don’t understand big oil. Probably have a small company mentality who only relate to the tangible aspects.

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Post ID: @5txv+15TkXkch

When I worked for a service company, my fellow co-workers would claim they were sick, or go on vacation rather than work on an Oxy well. Virtually everyone said that dealing with Oxy people was the most miserable experience.

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Post ID: @5pws+15TkXkch

Agree with many of the comments, except for @ehi who had the feedback that Anadarko's culture wasn't good. I'm not sure who you talked to and in what groups, and I do know there were likely groups at Anadarko that had issues. But I've worked for over 10 different companies throughout my long career, and Anadarko's culture was the best out of all of them, across the different groups I worked there. The final manager I had at Anadarko was even the worst manager in my career, and I still think the overall culture at Anadarko was great. It wasn't perfect, and had room for improvement, but everyone I knew liked Anadarko's culture quite a bit.

On the other hand, Oxy's culture is the worst I've ever experienced in my career. Granted, I haven't worked for one of the large service companies, but I can't imagine much of a more toxic culture. Your manager can play a big part, and I'm glad to hear that Oxy has some good managers, as my experience has not been positive in that area either. So my response to the OP is that it won't be difficult to find a company with a better overall culture than Oxy's. Many of us LAPC are holding out for being able to invoke COC, but many will definitely be looking to leave when the timing works out, and based on my experience, the grass will be greener almost anywhere else.

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Post ID: @4jru+15TkXkch

You will likely have to reduce staff at some point so hopefully hiring doesn’t happen in a major way.

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Post ID: @3adz+15TkXkch

@3ggh - You are 100% right and we should all be happy to have a job in these times. We might complain a lot, but I think it is more venting. I am glad to have my job at Oxy. If Oxy works this WFH right there will be people trying their best to come to work for Oxy. It will be a benefit now and in the future that will draw top talent no matter what others may say. There are a lot of companies still making their employees come in like the example of Hilcorp below. I have a friend that works for a small company and he is going in every other week.

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Post ID: @3uct+15TkXkch

Don't complain too much. you guys are blessed compared to service companies...

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Post ID: @3ggh+15TkXkch

I left Oxy in 2015. Was with 3 energy companies before Oxy (including Enron) and am at another one now. I have never, ever experienced as dysfunctional and bullying a culture at any of the other companies that was rampant at Oxy. This is not tolerated elsewhere. Yes, your manager has a lot to do with your experience, but when arrogance, incompetence and bullying have been part of a company’s culture for decades, it becomes its identity and is very hard to change. Please know that the rest of the industry does not behave like ivory tower Los Angeles narcissists who think they are superior to the rest of the industry, don’t know what they don’t know and purposely keep employees in the dark about what is going on. If you want employees to understand and embrace your strategies, you have to communicate what those strategies are. Oxy senior management has never understood this. Oxy’s culture is flat oppressive and repulsive.

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Post ID: @2quu+15TkXkch

Hilcorp is one of the good ones? They don't trust their employees enough to work from home. And now there's around 30 cases of COVID in their downtown office.

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Post ID: @2izw+15TkXkch

Basically every company I have interacted with has a better culture than Oxy.

There are 3 fundamental issues that affect culture

  1. there is no leadership from the top - every business unit, every area etc does whatever the heck they feel like. As a result, each group operates differently and it's at the discretion of whoever is on top. Each is protective of their fiefdom, so ideas are actively shunned.
  2. Inability to fire people - useless people stay forever as they never get fired. Good people get sick of carrying the trash in their teams and leave. Average drops.
  3. SG&A - GV runs a department of id–ts. They're just egotistical loons who w—rach other off while living in la la land.
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Post ID: @1lfo+15TkXkch

Oxys track record speaks for itself. Its a columbine high school mentality and the bullies and bigots think they get to run it without consequence.

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Post ID: @1rnx+15TkXkch

Anadarko DID have a great culture that was rooted in our core values. They were an instrumental part of the hiring and annual review process. We really lived those values. And all of them are seriously lacking in Oxy's world.

Integrity and Trust
Open Communication
Servant Leadership
Commercial Focus
People and Passion

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Post ID: @1icf+15TkXkch

Anadarko had a great culture? I was on an integration team in 2 APC office locations, and every APC employee said the exact opposite.

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Post ID: @ehi+15TkXkch

I don’t know you guys but several people in my group, including me, were laid off because of piss poor managers. I have heard different divisions of Pxy have very different cultures though. Permian Resources I think is notorious for toxic culture environment, even in the best of times.

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Post ID: @qxf+15TkXkch

How have the subsurface people found the WFH environment? Subsurface is not very well defined and the equipment used( large screens and high-end computers) is not your standard hardware in use.

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Post ID: @fcz+15TkXkch

To the last poster @iwl, Amen! I’m with you on this, am in the same position. Wonder what group you are in. I too have a great manager. No micromanaging, we are all WFH and communicate just about daily. Our group has been Blessed, no subjective, dishonest and padded performance reviews designed to punish you for whatever, lower rankings, etc. In another group some people complained about a Manager, they in turn received bad performance reviews and got fired. Pretty vindictive stuff. One of my coworkers had a bad manager for 5 years, mean person. But stuck it out and now has had a great manager for the past 5 years. I am sorry to hear about these other groups, ie Land w Nepotism stuff, besties, IT, etc. Wish it was all great for every OXY employee!

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Post ID: @ydv+15TkXkch

I agree with the top communication being a little off, but I have not had any major issues with Oxy other than the 30% reduction was tough to take, but I got over it. My job is great and my manager is the best, so I would not trade it for anything. Working from home has been a very big thing for me because of my age and risk factors for Covid, so that is good as well. I will ride it out at Oxy and do my best until I retire. From what I have seen in my career a company like Oxy is only as good as your direct manager. You get a bad one and no matter who the company is the experience will be bad. You get a good one and things can be great.

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Post ID: @iwl+15TkXkch

hard to find a better company than OxyChem. only complaint is no comunication

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Post ID: @exr+15TkXkch

I worked at another company in HOU, very processed oriented, only sideways mobilities, no matter how good you were, you were stuck doing the same thing day after day. Everything had a “ workflow process”, no creativity, no real development for new grad G&G, etc. Finally after two years turned in my notice. At this point management jumped and threw $20K at me to get me to stay, offered to move me to another group for skills expansion and varieties. Too late! Also this company was laying off people in a very crazy and random way. People were disappearing everyday. This was back in 2014-2015. The company just dropped all kinds of projects, nothing to fall back on during the oil crashes, etc. Came to OXY and my experience has been great! It really depends on what kind of role you are in and your career choices.. But I can see why IT is such a problem though. Several folks I knew who took the VSP did so because they were close to retirement and was such a great package for them. Especially for those with 15-30 plus years at OXY. A younger person took VSP to stay home with a baby for a while. Another young person took VSP to go back to school in the fall. Another VSP’er planning to get married and move away in the near future.

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Post ID: @vmb+15TkXkch

Oxy is missing true leadership. They think so highly of themselves yet provide little and poor direction. Communication is awful. I have no trust in management. I lost respect for my manager who has no understanding of what I do, my director is a joke, and I disagree with the CIO on many stances. (Like he thinks job postings are bad.) I look outside of IT, and it’s not any different. There are good people certainly, but the overall culture is toxic.

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Post ID: @mcn+15TkXkch

Can someone please describe what the ideal corporate culture is for an oil company the size of the new Oxy?

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Post ID: @grv+15TkXkch

There are companies out there but who you know and having sponsors will always matter everywhere you go. Hilcorp has awesome values and is a great place to work but pretty small. Anadarko has a great culture which is why this nightmare of an integration has been so soul crushing for those of us left.

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