Will UK union members be balloted on possible strike action to support UK jobs? I am usually against this type of action but someone needs to make a stand.
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Ref: TooBhenchod. My experience is that the staff in Bangalore do work as hard as any where else, but sometimes the quality of the output is questionable and the number of people required to do similar jobs is often higher, although this reflected in the costs. Companies and new management are often too quick to offshore or outsource, based on projected savings and quality that are not proven.
Taps watch. consultation period is over.
@5rij+15ZmuNIh are you saying we don’t work hard in Bangalore or as hard as Gdynia? I’d be curious to understand the basis you make that claim. I can’t see how hard anyone works in any location since I’m not there. What unique insight do you have related to Bangalore, please do share with us all.
Namaste :) why did they try to fire the leader? Twice? And the guy is still there ?
Boy oh boy I think you should strike. Probably like your thinking it won’t stop a billion dollar machine but sure as heck it will get you noticed and think of the publicity you would attract. For this alone it’d be worth it. You would be the brave union leader, the only union leader brave enough to do it. If something scares you, you should do it. If you got enemies, by the way it’s because you stood up for something! Enough of the illegal conniving and conspiracy. Let’s get the strike on, enough of the arrogance and withholding of information. One of the banners for the strike should be say bring back the union notice boards on all the floors.
PS : have you offered to take the site leadership role? You’d be AMAZING!
Hey, tired of feeling inferior? Want to feel special and protected too? Join their Union board :) I have seen them advertise open positions and know from a good source some still remain open. Some of union board members are protected from dismissal too and this is because they face high risk of retaliatory action from the employer they quite often criticize.
Actually they have helped me to deal with the new unfair "performance framework" and there are many other individual cases too here in Poland. Then, there is only so much they can do.
Protecting local jobs - all they do is asking questions and writing protesting statements to HR and now HR found the way not to consult them at all. Good old Reuters times are over. Last resort is organizing a strike. How a group of just 70 people can stop a multi billion dollar corporation from doing whatever they want? I have joined their union some time ago and I don't know why no one else is joining during those crazy times. Union PR is pretty much non existent. The sad truth is that most people just don't care, then act outraged when it is way too late to do anything. Hope LSEG will see the real value of local workforce. All the love goes to India now. Did UK union protect any of their jobs leaving to India?
And why I feel this forum is being closely watched and manipulated
@bfzn+15ZmuNIh why you stuck in same job for 7 years, man that is a crazy wicked long time. If there are managers in the union, get one of them to hire you into their team? There has to be a way out man. Am thinking of you.. peace man
They actually tried to fire local Union leader twice already, even though his position is protected by law
Had to laugh after reading the earlier post from someone saying only job union cares about is the union leaders. This highlights it, become a union leader not because you care or make a difference, do it because it provides YOU protection! How immoral and unjust. The rest of us in Poland don't have this protection, but don't worry let the union leader protect the ONE job (his own), he hasn't saved any other job in Poland! 300 jobs gone in 2 years, but he is still there because his position is protected by law. That makes me feel really inferior, YOU are more special and more important and higher status that the rest of us, we can just be disposed of while YOU are protected, just rub that in.
I gave up my union membership in Poland after seeing all the job losses and the union doing nothing. KYC was closed, the office in Katowice was closed, so many jobs lost in the cost cutting with Blackstone and many great and loyal colleagues gone. Union only cares about one job, and that is the job held by the union leader, everyone else is disposable. Not achieved anything for employees at all, it is so sad, almost 300 job gone.
Not too sure you could call the labour union in Gdynia a respectable outfit. With barely 70 members out of I think 1000 staff, It has very low uptake in membership so not very sure any consultation with the union would be a meaningfully representative exercise. That would be different if it had 1000 members. They do have 4000 followers on LinkedIn where lovely cartoons are posted at weekends wishing followers a nice weekend or regurgitated content mostly on the favourite topic of forced ranking. They have followers, followers., followers, everywhere they have followers! They have so many followers.
Such a shame they don’t have members, the unions job is membership not follower-ship and to be a true force representing employees. Having been a trade union rep in Europe and grown membership 400% I suggest to get some professional advice on the PR and marketing strategy. if invested in, it could yield results and make us stronger and really defend employee rights. It should be 300 members in Gdynia, why is this not the case? What’s going wrong? Do you have the right strategy and the right leader to fight for the employees rights before they are eroded more. No consultation in redundancies is a very slippery. Members demand your rights !! If you don’t get this right more and more jobs are going to be lost - what is the union doing to prevent this and to protect us losing jobs ask what is the membership and union leader doing for you.
A mutual agreement is the norm in most places, and numbers are typically higher that what the law says you must be paid. I don't see why you would not accept the higher amount at least here in UK it is significantly higher (double) the amounts the law says an employer must pay.
Do you get more in Poland by not accepting the mutual agreement?
Please be advised, that such "mutual agreement" should be discussed with your own counselor. Ask for additional time to review it. Record the meeting.
Your manager and HR person may discourage you from doing so - by making impression that it is "take it or leave it" situation. In such case please ask for confirmation in writing that they prevented you from taking the "deal" to counselor.
Small tip: In Poland you have a right to do so.
In any case do not rely on opinion of lawyers offered by Refinitiv.
"I work for one of the content teams in Gdynia, Poland. The newest "trick" here is to present everyone dismissal paper based on a "mutual agreement", no matter how many people are let go. No need to even consult it with the Labor Union in such situation. Basically - we want to fire you and you agree to it for little "extra" money added to what is guaranteed by local laws. We had last wave of layoffs last week, all done with white gloves and very quietly. Moving Gdynia roles, where people are great and work hard to Bangalore - this is pure corporate greed right here."
I have worked with many of you in Gdynia, always with a very positive outcome. My own role is at threat in London but that is insignificant to the treatment you folks have had!
I work for one of the content teams in Gdynia, Poland. The newest "trick" here is to present everyone dismissal paper based on a "mutual agreement", no matter how many people are let go. No need to even consult it with the Labor Union in such situation. Basically - we want to fire you and you agree to it for little "extra" money added to what is guaranteed by local laws. We had last wave of layoffs last week, all done with white gloves and very quietly. Moving Gdynia roles, where people are great and work hard to Bangalore - this is pure corporate greed right here.
Very quiet from the UK union.....
It is time to make a stand. If not now, then when? BS operation was an act of predation, at the expense of everything else!
But where does it stop? At some point a stand has to be made against pure greed, slow death or go with a fight? Our forebears fought for workers rights! When it comes to our turn are we to timid to stand up to the bullies? From the below it sounds likely..
By striking we are risking more jobs, I'm p-ss-d but would not risk my friends livelihoods who are not impacted, many of these people are good friends outside of work
Doubt it. On March 19th Alan Burn from Unite emailed all at Refinitiv to commend the leadership of the company and to express his confidence in managers to do the right thing and strike the right balance. This was 4 days after 10% of the company did not receive the bonus that they earned the previous year for there family.