Thread regarding Lenovo layoffs

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@eayk+16qSHSWC - agree with this. This is literally two people arguing about whether Lenovo is good or bad, like having two different opinions is some crazy thing.

Reality is DCG laid off 500 people in May/June. PCSD laid off 6% in NA. This site isn't called "Let's Argue About Lenovo" , it's Lenovo Layoff

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Post ID: @ecxt+16qSHSWC

Can we please return to lay-off info?! DCG laid off 500 in June, and there will undoubtedly be more in future, so need these channels open for useful information.

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Post ID: @eayk+16qSHSWC

Funny how you don't like name calling and inappropriate comments, but you gloss over the culture at Lenovo which commonly includes both of those things. Oh well.


again, provide proof of Lenovo culture that allows

Name Calling

or

Inappropriate comments .

if it happened to you , while there, provide the context ?

prove it

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Post ID: @eflr+16qSHSWC

keep going with the name calling.

I am away with my MBA to read the accounts.

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Post ID: @epzm+16qSHSWC

I see Chump Change can dish it out, but can't take it at all. Happy that you did see my post before it was deleted. Funny how you don't like name calling and inappropriate comments, but you gloss over the culture at Lenovo which commonly includes both of those things. Oh well.

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Post ID: @dssb+16qSHSWC

Thank goodness, once again, action taken.

Spadecallers terrible childish name calling and s-xualized comments about others were deleted. Well done moderators.

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Post ID: @duao+16qSHSWC

Hahahaha,

I could not make it up. I will need to type in the Queens English, to satisfy you or your or you're from the Americas.

Predictive spelling on the phone.

What one must do to ease the burden on your -)) poor afflicted purple hearts.

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Post ID: @dukq+16qSHSWC

"My MBA taught me that. My point stands."

Ironic that the person on here boasting about their MBA and its implied superiority doesn't even know how to use the proper form of your and YOU'RE. Perhaps spend a little more time on basic grammar versus towing the corporate line next time.

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Post ID: @dtzs+16qSHSWC

Spadecaller,

you realise to answer my point about record profits for the YEAR, you gave a link only to the 3rd q of that year. You know that a year is 12 months, and it doesnt end in the 3rd quarter ?

" Full year 19/20. Record profit.
1q 20/21 . Record profit. "

My MBA taught me that. My point stands.

Meanwhile unless your ame is Mr or Mrs Spadecaller, well your not brave, your anonymous as well.

10 years decling you say ? Smaller pie ?

Yet Lenovo sells the profitable ones.

Best ever.

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Post ID: @cpav+16qSHSWC

@bfvz+16qSHSWC:

" Full year 19/20. Record profit.
1q 20/21 . Record profit. "

[ Umm, yeah, not entirely true: ]
https://www.zdnet.com/article/lenovo-claims-record-but-flat-revenue-for-third-quarter/

[ If things are so great why are they laying off people multiple times a year? Don't tell me that's part of a "healthy business practice", either, because that's just typical worthless MBA spin and bullsh!t to try to distract from reality. ]

"Get ready for this highest ever market share for Lenovo in NA in Q1":

[ Hey, great point, anonymous, except the overall PC market has been SHRINKING for well over 10 years, so Lenovo is indeed getting a larger slice of the pie, but the pie itself is much smaller than it was years ago. But, hey, go ahead and celebrate, I'm sure you're too big to fail. ]

"Lastly YY press releases uses the spelling globalised."

[ I didn't make the comment about the spelling and frankly don't give a f– about YY or what comes out of either side of his mouth. ]

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Post ID: @civf+16qSHSWC

DCG lost $58 million and mobile $50 mil last quarter.

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Post ID: @cofz+16qSHSWC

Spadecaller.

Those things listed as failures.

Can you see the impact on the company accounts today ? .

Full year 19/20. Record profit.

1q 20/21 . Record profit.

Highest profit ever in EMEA even more than China.

Get ready for this highest ever market share for Lenovo in NA in Q1. Go figure for allegedly such poor quality products.

Lastly YY press releases uses the spelling globalised.

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Post ID: @bfvz+16qSHSWC

@amqy+16qSHSWC : To add to the list of miserable failings:

1) Purchasing Motorola Mobile excepting the patent portfolio to be some sort of saving pot of gold for Lenovo

2) The Superfish clusterfu*k - revealed just how insecure Lenovo software products were and how shady the business deals executives green-lighted to turn a profit really are. The fallout from that is still felt today.

3) Abysmal customer service - Do a simple google search and see that most people would rather get a root canal rather than deal with Lenovo's clueless customer service – and this is worldwide, not just in the US. Most people are so fed up, they won't go back to Lenovo. Granted, enterprise is a much bigger cash cow, but I hear some of those customers aren't real happy, either.

I'd elaborate on culture problems as I have done in previous posts, but I don't want to be accused of being "emotional", despite this being the honest truth.

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Post ID: @bsgr+16qSHSWC

"Could you list out the "miserable failings " ?

Not emotional comments about people being laid off or performance of middle management, but a list of what Lenovos business failures are,

Start with the last accounts and tease out the failings."

I'll ask you this: DCG was acquired in 2014 - when was the last time DCG was profitable or even competitive with the likes of Dell, HPE, or Cisco in any aspect? Where is the innovation? Where is the bold risk-taking necessary to get yourselves a seat at that table or even into the conversation with those companies? Leadership has lacked the overall vision and is far too often reactionary when going against the likes of the incumbents.

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Post ID: @ahld+16qSHSWC

Sounds like someone in Lenovo management trying to put some spin on their miserable failings.

Could you list out the "miserable failings " ?

Not emotional comments about people being laid off or performance of middle management, but a list of what Lenovos business failures are,

Start with the last accounts and tease out the failings.

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Post ID: @amqy+16qSHSWC

Sounds like someone in Lenovo management trying to put some spin on their miserable failings. Notice the spelling of "globalised"

"Healthy and profitable enterprises layoff people all the time. That is business.

Infrastructure projects come to an end.
Emerging technology replaces people doing tasks.
AI is here.
Product lines go end of life.
Customer accounts shift to a rival.
People themselves want to leave.
Jobs continue to be globalised.

A healthy business is always churning people. Holding onto old ways is just stagnant sentimental and costly.

As to DCG it is the poorest performing business unit in Lenovo. It knows what it wants to be but cannot execute to the level needed. Being propped up by the rest of the company profit. Until it is right sized and led by people outside the old IBM/Intel axis it won't get there. A vanity project."

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Post ID: @9okh+16qSHSWC

Spacecaller .

Your best most realistic post yet.

Enterprises don't care about redeployment. Retaining.
People are a burden.

Those middle management positions take them out of USA.

Agree with that

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Post ID: @9qpq+16qSHSWC

Healthy and profitable enterprises layoff people all the time. That is business.
[ Really? Usually, healthy businesses GROW people, not lay them off. ]

Infrastructure projects come to an end.
[ No need to chop heads - people can learn new things. ]

Emerging technology replaces people doing tasks.
[ Not usually in the computer industry... ]

AI is here.
[ BFD - it's been "here" for 50 years; it's just become interesting again the past several years mostly due to projects like Watson. It still has a long way to mature to use it to replace people en masse., or at least by the hundreds on a yearly basis. ]

Product lines go end of life.
[ Again, retrain your staff, don't kick them to the curb. ]

Customer accounts shift to a rival.
People themselves want to leave.
[ Ok, actual true points here. ]

Jobs continue to be globalised.
[ And quality suffers. Not sour grapes here - this has been proven time and again.]

A healthy business is always churning people. Holding onto old ways is just stagnant sentimental and costly.
[ So, adapt new ways. Why do you have to lay people off?]

The only statement you made that makes sense is that of DCG. It's a dud. It's expensive and complex, but it needs to die off.

What I would love to see replaced is worthless management that doesn't do anything useful, costs companies like Lenovo too much money, and have no actual skills besides going to meetings and having powerpoints made for them for the sole purpose of being "visible" which directly translates into "relevance" and "importance"... Real leadership is showing people the right way to do it, inspiring people to do and be better. What you get at companies like Lenovo is a bunch of corporate clowns trying to control the perception of an increasingly negative reality to save their own a$$es. So yes, layoff the old dead wood - start with the lying management who get paid way more than they deserve. Continue with those rank and file who refuse to or have too hard of a time changing with the times. At an EXTREME last resort, layoff good employees who might cost too much. Right now, it's the total opposite - management is almost always the last to go and most of them have huge severance packages for abysmal failures. It's nothing less than criminal.

I'm curious - have you ever been laid off? In the US, it is a very stressful and sometimes can be a devastating thing for people. Other parts of the world have laws that protect employees from this sort of thing or at least shield them from some of the worst parts of it. I have learned to keep plenty of cash on hand because I don't trust any employer anymore. No too many people have the same luxury.

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Post ID: @8qnh+16qSHSWC

Healthy and profitable enterprises layoff people all the time. That is business.

Infrastructure projects come to an end.
Emerging technology replaces people doing tasks.
AI is here.
Product lines go end of life.
Customer accounts shift to a rival.
People themselves want to leave.
Jobs continue to be globalised.

A healthy business is always churning people. Holding onto old ways is just stagnant sentimental and costly.

As to DCG it is the poorest performing business unit in Lenovo. It knows what it wants to be but cannot execute to the level needed. Being propped up by the rest of the company profit. Until it is right sized and led by people outside the old IBM/Intel axis it won't get there. A vanity project.

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Post ID: @8jea+16qSHSWC

The things I don’t understand:
Why are they still laying off people?
Why can’t dcg ever gain share or grow at premium to market?
Why are so many people fleeing dcg?
Why does the coo pick his nose when he speaks publicly?

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Post ID: @8ivh+16qSHSWC

Published accounts.
To the international standards.

Lenovo had its best ever first quarter.

What don't you understand ?

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Post ID: @7bgz+16qSHSWC

They probably also took Bldg. 1 lease dollars and put towards profits. It is still pretty gloomy on the sales floor. They've been known to use real estate management to fudge the numbers in the past.

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Post ID: @4ycz+16qSHSWC

It's China, they do not follow international accounting laws. They can make a profit by doing nothing. When I was there, they mysteriously had a massive sale in China for the end of the quarter. No parts were ordered, no manufacturing or shipping of hardware, nothing. But, it was $150M in sales. They sold nothing to make their numbers through shell corporations and China government.

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Post ID: @2izi+16qSHSWC

If Lenovo is portraying an image that everything is fine and business is doing well, then why are they laying off workers. Good dedicated workers that have been loyal and have worked endlessly to keep business moving. Is Lenovo lying? Sure seems like it.

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