Thread regarding Ciena Corp. layoffs

work environment not healthy

The bay area team is like "two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner"
The virtualization engineering team is maintained as a hostile environment, by Vp and henchmen so that they can pretend they are working, ie to mediate a fight that they sustained and created.
They deliberately block any constructive work to be accomplished within a time line, because their job would end then.
Their plan is to scrounge around for next 10 years, while not a single task can be completed to satisfaction.

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Is the product built in bay–area, a true microservices prodct ? It is ancient technology that sales team don't want to touch with a barge pole. Old Cisco era is over.. bring in new tech.
No one wants your old cisco junk.
Hire non–cisco people at the top and build using latest tech. Smoke and mirror product currently built in bay area will not sell.

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Post ID: @3Yboo+16yWDMfc

when the bay–area test managers themselves dont know how a protocol works or its abilities but expect the employee to "perform" and answer questions related to bug–discussions.. it is ridiculous.
The only thing these managers are good at, is licking the boot of the VP to ensure, he is "happy", and speak in his language., play politics and spread false information to support the need of their position.

There is no need for Test managers. That is why agile scrum and scrum masters are hired.
Let us interview the test managers/dir for test position and see who passes the interview.
Bay area engineering team managers , forming its own MS–13 gang. Unfortunately, the real MS–13 gangs are less corrupt.

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Post ID: @3Xnwo+16yWDMfc

in bay-area ,the VP raises a toast in private , for engineering his employee's downfall. He expects to get promotion for " improving such a sub-standard team, and turn around the productivity". He feels whatever good has happened is due to him., and everything bad is due to incompetent engineers, sales, mrktg .

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Post ID: @3Ergw+16yWDMfc

I agree with comment below @2Pyhb+16yWDMfc.
In addition,
What does a person do, if he is asked by his executive to say that feature has passed, when it has not ?

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Post ID: @2Rqet+16yWDMfc

the bay-area packet team is building a very very low-end third-world product, not sure why would anyone build this kind of product in silicon valley. No good engineers want to work on these kinds of products and these kinds of pay. All they have are either people fired or retired from Cisco. Can they produce anything new or competitive? The results are written on the wall.

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Post ID: @2Pyhb+16yWDMfc

The VP will set a rule for the whole team, and will blatantly break it himself ( for his benefit).
He is making a point that he is above the rules he makes for rest of engineers.
This has happened many times. This is cisco ethics, that ciena has embraced.
Managers have followed him, there is no fabric of honesty.
HR of course makes sure VP gets to keep his job and finds ways to get rid of others.

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Post ID: @26wyx+16yWDMfc

The rotten cisco mgmt is so corrupt that they find no bias in putting the engineering mgr as the scrum master. It is no wonder that the product failed to meet deadline for so many years.

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Post ID: @26gnq+16yWDMfc

The articulation is the truth, and truth hurts so much that it has rattled one or more people to take action on their infamous activities at Ciena. A rotten core management with CISCO Sh–s makes a wonderful team that Sales does not even want to touch with a long pole. What a mess. For new grads this is an eye-opener.

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Post ID: @25vti+16yWDMfc

Ha Ha .. ciena h1b losers figured out, that downvoting a lumpsum count reveals their plan of coverup. So they decided to visit this page everyday to downvote.. to make it appear credible.
Just like their boss promised to circumvent DoL rules and protect them from being replaced by citizens during LCA.

Ciena hires friends/family. They spend time in Ciena twiddling their thumb , instead of sitting at home idle. Drain the SWAMP.

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Post ID: @1Wbhd+16yWDMfc

Awww more futile efforts to hide the truth...
Engineers who got promotion this year are offended that the truth is out. They never thought that their secret of brown-nosing to get promotion, would be out.
The nexus is exposed ! Nothing is merit based in ciena.
Caste-based politics thrives well .

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Post ID: @1Tjxq+16yWDMfc

This behavior of cover ups, even in anonymous forums, is only the tip of the iceberg.
Anyone working in this environment and facing this bullying, suffers PTSD.
There is a lot of humiliation used as a tool to "motivate" engineers. This motivation is similar to the motivating animals in a zoo. It is just like animals being poked and harassed and starved in a Zoo to elicit reaction for satisfaction/happiness of the boss.

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Post ID: @1Mcsc+16yWDMfc

LOL, Looks like the mafia from SJ engineering has gotten active and started downvoting the comments.
The usual suppression mechanisms have been deployed. .. pathetic.

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Post ID: @1Mwzm+16yWDMfc

Whether virtualization team can execute or not, the VP is only good at creating AR/ VR about his abilities. his henchmen are safe and protected as long as they serve their purpose as kapo.
HR makes sure that he is not caught by DoL rules, nor Ciena ethics code.
Ciena's fabric and culture has been destroyed, in favor of a mirage shown by the VP and his henchmen from same community.

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Post ID: @1Afzi+16yWDMfc

Only an insecure person preemptively does propaganda against his own people, for the fear of being held responsible for issues.
It is an open secret.

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Post ID: @1cihd+16yWDMfc

Integrity issues by Executives as part of retaliation, has been the norm in the industry. But in Ciena, it was not so frequent and identified back to one person. And the fact that he is setting an example for other managers under him is of concern. Lack of integrity is not something a person can rectify. Just like a ped#phile 's action is not by mistake. It is a big red flag about people using their position, to destroy others. Especially since, Ciena isnt paying him for that.

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Post ID: @19yvb+16yWDMfc

If you are in a different reporting chain than the scrum master , then you are screwed.
The your management will assign you tasks that are over and above what is committed for the release. This method is condoned by 'leadership'. They are hoping you don't hear the truth from scrum master before you commit to the task. "Con the employee" is the motto.
If you are not their " friend" then you are not getting credit for completing those overcommitted tasks. If you are unable to complete the tasks ( that are clearly marked as overcommitted), they will bad mouth you with the upper management and peers. VP himself engages in this honorable activity.
This is the skill of "leadership" today.

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Post ID: @19ddq+16yWDMfc

You nailed it. Exactly what I see around Ciena. Sounds like the Boeing 737 MAX autopilots aiming for the ground

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Post ID: @Jofp+16yWDMfc

This article defines the attitude of the management who are hired based on race/friendship ( and promoted ). They cant get any job outside of Ciena, and wont allow anyone else to progress in life.
If you are not at the dinner table, you are the menu.

The Great Indian Crab Mentality –
Wikipedia describes quite succinctly, in a single phrase, the crab mentality as “If I can’t have it, neither can you!”. And today, if there is any nation into whose psyche this mentality has been hammered, it would be India.
It is no big secret that people in India hate to see others succeed, especially if that other individual happens to be from their peer group. This, in itself, has been one of the biggest contributors to India’s lagging growth since Independence. The lack of innovation originating from India is a testament to India’s crab mentality, which pervades every career field in India, be it Science or Art or Politics

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Post ID: @Bjul+16yWDMfc

When you have human scums in management positions nothing better can be expected. The scum culture is ingrained in their thinking and actions. Any one who values themselves should exit at the first possible chance. While doing sales customers dont want any CISCO shiits to show up as they have already been burnt once.

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