Thread regarding Saudi Aramco layoffs

Aviation

Any news regarding Aviation? I keep hearing that they're on the chopping block, and will be privatized soon.

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Post ID: @OP+18bxdX8e

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The time of the expat is over? Then why are 95% of the Captains expat, and you're seeking to hire more?

Without the expats here, whether Aramcons or contractors, there wouldn't be an Aviation department. Also, the actual Chief Pilot of this place isn't Saudi and you know it - it's a certain group of expats that are actually doing all of the work just so the department can legally fly and continue the operation.

Your anti-expat sentiment is noted though, the reality is that Aramco Aviation is as desperate for expats as they ever were before, and that demand isn't going away anytime soon.

Ultimately, Saudis will be better off in Aviation once their younger generation has gained the experience to take over. As it stands now, there is a massive gap between the top and the youth to be able to effect positive change.

As an expat working in Aviation for 25 years, I have been nothing but impressed by the young Saudis. However, it's those at the top that have wrecked this place and will continue to do so.

If you're honest with yourself, then you know what I'm saying is true.

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Post ID: @2pnpl+18bxdX8e

For those who knock us down, the wheels have started to turn. We will be a fully independent Saudi owned and run aviation company - the time of the expat is over.

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Post ID: @2dbix+18bxdX8e

Yes, they outsourced medical (JHAH) and have been regretting it ever since. It's the reason many other departments haven't done so either. The point of a spin off is to relinquish liability, gain financial advantage, and retain or improve quality - that didn't happen with JHAH as we all know.

However, if THC can provide a better service at (or lower) than current costs then sure, but the reality is that they cannot accomplish this and as someone else pointed out they're losing money, and have been after only one year on their own as a commercial company. The ex-aviation manager became their VP on the board of directors within a month of leaving Aramco - conflict of interest much?

Ultimately, why they'd even be considered for taking over the company's aviation operations is beyond me, makes no financial sense at all. But hey, let's wreck a department that's been achieving the companies objectives since the 1940s so a handful of people can reap the benefits.

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Post ID: @3ean+18bxdX8e

The company has outsourced its hospitals so why not Aviation? It makes sense, but this is going to lower safety standards. Outsourcing is always full of corruption as the Senior VPs will seize the opportunity to start a business for their useless (dumbo) children.

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Post ID: @3weq+18bxdX8e

They don't have enough local pilots between THC and Aramco together to operate the helicopters we have now. Also, if this transition was happening according to how you say then why waste the time and effort of getting all of the expats GACA certificates so that they can continue to fly Aramco aircraft for? Why not let them go instead, since the locals are ready to assume every role?

Lastly, that PIF funded company operates at a net loss every month and have yet to turn a profit. It is very clear why they've submitted multiple proposals to take over Aramco Aviation - to survive without the PIF having to pay off their debts.

Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

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Post ID: @1zfh+18bxdX8e

The transition from a mostly expat workforce to a near complete Saudi one will happen this coming year. Once all aircraft and personnel are converted over to GACA the process will start. The first division that will be outsourced will be the helicopters with the PIF funded THC partner assuming operation. The fixed wing division may stay a bit longer as the negotiations with Saudia and FlyNAS to fly the routes to the remote locations has been a sticking point as they are not financially viable.

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Post ID: @1plp+18bxdX8e

Three regional leaders interested in taking over company aviation operations include: EL AL, Iran Air and Kentucky Fried Chicken (KFC).

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Post ID: @asi+18bxdX8e

It is unimaginable that anyone would be brave enough to fly on Company aircraft and feel safe, especially with their families in tow. Trust the local agents, what a joke.

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Post ID: @vha+18bxdX8e

You mean to say that they are clipping your wings and that others will be “moving their tails” for the company?

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