Thread regarding McAfee layoffs

Did McAfee ever have job security?

I've been here for three years and in that time I've learned that the threat of layoffs is a normal part of my job. It's not something I'm used to yet and it's making my job extra stressful. Now I'm wondering if it's always been like that? If it has, how do you get used to it?

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Working at McAfee is like riding a directionless ship heaving in the waves in a lightning storm. Great shipmates, but an absent captain, and replacement officers who hardly remember the difference between casting off lines or casting off crew. Stick around long enough and eventually the odds of a lightning strike, or getting tossed overboard keep rising.

Once you realize that McAfee is not a company one can expect to retire from, and you get in the daily habit of updating your resume, you should fare well enough to be able to trade your expertise and talent for a fairly descent payout. Just remember, McAfee doesn't have to be the only customer for your talents.

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Post ID: @2qrxd+193COoyu

Run for the hills. There are greener pastures. Just s—s trying to find them in a b—s— pandemic. Good luck.

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Post ID: @9xqy+193COoyu

I worked there for 9 years and only just recently moved to a different company. While I was there I saw layoffs at least once every year. Some years bigger than others. Some years saw layoffs happen twice. It's normal for McAfee.

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Post ID: @5ecf+193COoyu

Next round of layoffs is soon (3-4 weeks), McAfee is not investing in the enterprise/corporate arena since the company has moved focus to consumer products.

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Post ID: @2ogo+193COoyu

What you're asking is highly dependent on the structure of the company you work for, and for McAfee, sorry, but its a way of life.

The hardest thing to get used to is the fact that, no matter how well you do you job, ultimately it rests in the hands of people that haven't the foggiest clue what your job even is, and their only measurement of whether you're good at it is a cost-center calculation of the five numbers they get on it every year (your quarterly and annual performance reviews) measured against what it costs them to keep you. The former is highly subjective; the latter is highly dependent on the information reporting structure, and assumes the results of your efforts are bubbled up the pipeline of info and not accosted by an intermediate management and/or fellow employees (it happens; a LOT).

It's not easy. And yes, it s—s. In my experience the most important thing you can do is hedge against it; be so god-like at your job it is clear and demonstrable not only to your peers, to multiple levels of your organization tree, it's known even outside McAfee. That's the point you have multiple angles of leverage against the next round of layoffs (and yes: there will always be another round of layoffs in the next year or two, especially with this merry-go-round of executives). Now you're both attractive to keep, and they have added incentive not to allow you to slip into someone else's hands. You do not, and cannot, live in the latter zone exclusively. Sooner or later your value there will diminish unless you keep up the wow-factor.

But once you start seeing the heads around you blipping off the radar, make no mistake: you're on borrowed time. That doesn't mean you're not doing a good job; you can be outstanding at your job and still be on the razors edge for reasons I stated prior. That's probably the hardest thing to get used to.

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Post ID: @2pqq+193COoyu

It's always been like this. Every year. McAfee has had a huge number of different CEOs and other senior management leaders over the years who have all failed. All they know is job cuts, there will be more...

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Post ID: @1rqi+193COoyu

No company has job security! In the interest of their shareholders, every big company is ‘restructuring‘ now and then. Cisco is giving 3k people the boot currently.
This time McAfee’s action was pretty dramatic, I haven’t seen that before ( 11 years) but there’s a round every 2-3 years.

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