Don't let some c-appy corporate company make money off you. Quit. Leave. You know it's wrong.
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I taught two courses per term online, for ten years, until DeVry was sold. Then, I moved on to another online college paying quite a bit more than DeVry did, for identical adjunct work.
My ending at DeVry was abrupt and unwanted at the time. But on the other hand, ten years was probably long enough. Just wish I knew then, than I could have been earning more elsewhere.
No complaints, in fact, I wish them well. They'll need it.
@Formerly PTSD’d by Layoffs and Micromanagement, we should talk. I'd like to know where you are working today and how the for-profit college strategies are working at more legitimate schools.
Been gone almost five years now. I didn’t leave because admissions standards were too low...we had a lot of ex-military and community college students who did fine at my campus. Many of my students got jobs in their field after graduation, and I enjoyed helping them learn the material, going beyond, in most cases, what we were supposed to cover. No, I left because of the constant threat of layoffs and the micromanagement. By the time I had decided to go, Course evaluations above 3.6 led to constantly kowtowing to students to keep our numbers high and keep our jobs. Then it started to become political on top of that with all of the regional mergers and turf protectionism. Then they dumbed down some of the curriculum in some of the courses like the intro business class. I did the best I could at the place and helped as many people as I could, and after agonizing about it for quite a bit on various forums, found a new position as part of a multi-year search. I was glad that I left when I did because things were getting worse. I’ve told this story here before but what I came here to say this time is that some educational management processes that may have seemed exploitative when DeVry rolled them out as inventor or early adopter—hybrid schedules, half semester classes, dual delivery, aggressive retention management and so on—are becoming adopted at even traditional institutions in order to try to survive the pandemic enrollment drops. Processes that I hated back at the DV are items that I do gladly in my new position. All that said, DeVry paid well ahead of most traditional colleges in my area (except for the R1). I took about a 1/3 pay cut to move on, and am glad that I did. Nevertheless, I do look back positively on the two decades I spent there and miss many of my former colleagues. Take care all and be well. I think that I am not posting here again because I might have finally gotten over the mental process of moving on.
If it's so bad, why is no one talking to ED, VA, DOD, or state agencies?
The OP is right on about "you know it's wrong". Most colleagues in this sector know that most of their students have no business being in college, let alone borrowing thousands of dollars they'll never repay, but don't speak up in order to protect their paychecks. If you care about your institution's reputation, it's time to change standards quickly.
This exclamatory assertion by the OP is not helpful, and possibly a sad consequence of recent staff impacts. This would explain the understandable vitriol here. To the OP, many of us are empathetic, having endured the grinding precariousness of the environment in recent years, but it feels like we’re now experiencing a leveling off and might even find a path forward with a suitable niche in the maelstrom of what is now higher education. Maybe. For now, is there anyone out there with a relevant, genuine insight regarding specific upcoming plans or actions?
DeVry isn't making money off its employees. We all knew that when it got sold for less than used chewing gum.