Thread regarding Cummins Inc. layoffs

Interview

Had an interview with HR a few days ago. She informed me about the Cummins pay. Annual bonuses are 8% with a multiplier between .5 and 2. For example, if a person’s salary was $100,000, they received an $8,000 bonus with a multiplier of 2, their bonus would be $16,000. That’s not counting profit sharing in the spring. 2017 was the last year the multiplier was 2. Since then it’s hovered around .5 to 1.
This is why off-shoring, contracting with less pay, and no benefits is an attractive model. Never mind global plant closings and thousands of jobs lost maintaining this pay structure. Internal politics to sustain and maintain is brutal.

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Post ID: @OP+19VnUNOW

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I moved on from Cummins after 17 years. Throughout that time, I witnessed incompetent minorities from off-shore, hired, promoted and safeguarded. I moved on and the company I’ve worked for since, does not hire, endorse, promote, nor safeguard any non-citizen, work-visa holders. As a result, I’ve never seen the drama, or constant turnover that I experienced with Cummins. Just syain.

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Post ID: @5wao+19VnUNOW

Poetic Justice: I worked with a non-citizen, work-visa holder for nearly 14 years. This person had taken an American job all that time: filled the minority quota from Cummins. A typical RIF took place. This person was sent back to India, and no more indoor plumbing, nor air-conditioning. Many come over; few can ever stay.

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Post ID: @5sna+19VnUNOW

Here’s why the non-citizen, work-visa holder fled their countries: indoor plumbing, air conditioning, and entitlements. No merit; only inherit.

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Post ID: @5grh+19VnUNOW

@Miller – the voice of non-citizen, work-visa. If your concept worked so well, why did you flee your own country to come here?!?

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Post ID: @5dck+19VnUNOW

In the search for character and commitment, we must rid ourselves of our inherited, even cherished biases and prejudices. Character, ability and intelligence are not concentrated in one s-x over the other, nor in persons with certain accents or in certain races or in persons holding degrees from some universities over others. When we indulge ourselves in such irrational prejudices, we damage ourselves most of all and ultimately assure ourselves of failure in competition with those more open and less biased.

LOL

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Post ID: @5tox+19VnUNOW

If any candidate falls in the “minority” status, they will be given top preference over any “white” candidate. For example, if an African-American, Transgender, reporting as non-binary, at age 50, with no experience applies for an open role, that person will be chosen over any white candidate half that age with a Master’s Degree and proven background. In fact, the last in line white person, if hired would be reporting to any minority who fills any diversity slots regardless of talent. Race matters first at Cummins.

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Post ID: @5xdq+19VnUNOW

I don't know what's going to happen but for what they are doing and their stock price being well over 200 dollars a share it shouldn't be. I heard that the reason why the stock is doing so well is because of the company buying its own stock. Cummins is so far behind innovation I'm surprised they haven't been bought out and broken up.

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Post ID: @4hsk+19VnUNOW

@Tim Lonebarger: Completely agree with what you say. When I interviewed with several Cummins competitors last year, they would always express their appreciation for the robust training processes at Cummins. I work for one of them now, and I hit the ground running after I joined. I also observe, that my current employer is less prone to people leaving unpredictably because they are satisfied with their jobs. The company hires less frequently, and when they do, they make sure they are fishing in Columbus, Indiana :)
Being RIFed from Cummins has been a real bonus honestly. It allowed me to pack up and leave for a better location, with better weather, better pay, better benefits, and honestly, a far more positive work culture, with no steep learning curve at the new job :)

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Post ID: @3rir+19VnUNOW

"hire to develop" ends up meaning "hire to develop for the next company." When I was interviewing outside of Cummins, I remember a recruiter saying "I like the way Cummins trains their people." I didn't think anything of it at the time, but with all the turnover, Cummins has to be good at training. My current company (same industry) is way worse at training, because they can be without all the turnover. Just imagine a world where Cummins didn't have to spend a bunch of time and money training new people, and think of the damage it would do to their competition if Cummins wasn't providing a free trained workforce for the entire idustry.

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Post ID: @1lnm+19VnUNOW

It's not a bonus, its variable compensation and it depends on your salary grade and can be up to 25%. Even with the variable compensation, my compensation at my next company was higher , Cummins compensation is always to be an average payer and hire to develop. They are clear with that.

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Post ID: @wgc+19VnUNOW

The problem is American businesses and companies want their cake and eat it too. Meaning that they don't want American's because we are expensive but at the same time they want to be able to sell us products that require us to be paid at high salaries. So lets say LG electronics, okay pay your workers cheaply, but you will have to sell you wears 75% lower than what they are. Same for groceries and other items and such. They wouldn't like that.

I'm sorry Cummins and I"m sorry other companies but if you want your workers to buy your high priced items they must get high pay pure and simple.

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Post ID: @bfn+19VnUNOW

HCL implements their Caste System here in America. Women are second class, and rarely rise to any Executive, Senior Leadership positions. Much like Cummins. The talent that has vacated from Cummins; likewise, has vacated from HCL. HCL will hire someone bagging groceries yesterday, inflate their resume, and will onboard them at Cummins tomorrow, at half the price for a qualified American. Cummins Leadership signs the check.

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Post ID: @mls+19VnUNOW

I worked with a team that Cummins had paid HCL $105,000 for each role. There were 4 HCL members on the team. HCL paid them each a salary between $45-$50k. HCL pocketed the remaining $105,000 on each team member! In addition, those team members went several years with no salary increases, nor cost of living adjustments. Yet, HCL raked in $105,000 for each team member every year!

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Post ID: @ruy+19VnUNOW

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