I don't have any new info on layoffs but what I can tell you is that I'm sick and tired of being used like a farmer's mule. I've busted my a** for this company for 20 years. They don't care. They wouldn't bat an eye if I walked tomorrow. I hope they have plenty of mascara though because from what I hear lots of people are sick of being used and are on their way out the door. These people are in positions that can't be filled by millennials or gen z cry babies. These positions require years of knowledge and training. The two and three percent raises were a slap in the face. Anthem is begging for their best employees to walk!!!! And you know what they say - be careful what you wish for!
21 replies (most recent on top)
@wogp+19WXdxv4 – Thank you for letting us know on COBRA subsidy
If you were let go recently and are on COBRA, please ensure you get the subsidy from anthem, Govt is paying the COBRA from April 2021 to Sept. This has been approved by Stimulus package.
Gen X here. Worked at UHG for 18 years. Then came here. Let’s just say UHG has a lot of time on their hands bc I hear complaining all the time there (justified and warranted complaints about UHG) but Anthem employees are so different and don’t voice complaints. It’s clearly harder to work here and my colleague and I who came from UHG just joined a huge tassel of folks we knew from UHG and are working with them here. It is awful with stress here for my colleague and I. So I started asking questions because in meetings everyone sounds so chipper. Well what do ya know start talking one on one with these employees here at Antehm and you hear an earful so now I know people don’t even feel freedom to honestly complain about what is wrong. That’s a new kind of slavery and silencing I’m not used to. Glad the pay is higher here. But wow. It’s way more unhappy people here than I originally thought. And hopefully they do not get rid of older folks with experience at Anthem. Those of you that have been at Anthem for a long time are precious and valued!! Over at UHG they will find excuse to dump you as I was because they found out I was good with training others and was replaced by little counselors who would accept 30k a year instead of double that. So hopefully they hire more folks at Anthem because what I see happening at Anthem actually already happened at UHG as I was leaving there. Managed care is a mess and it needs an overhaul quick
Millennial here! I have worked for Anthem for many years. I feel your frustration. Believe it or not, I'm sick and tired too. My two cents is that a really experienced employee can't be replaced by anyone, period – regardless of age, nationality, whatever. There's no substitute for experience.
The more they throw away the people with experience, the worse the company gets.
(P.S.: Keep in mind the oldest Millennials are 41, and the oldest Gen Z are already 25!)
I was RIF’d 9/2020. Took all 6 months of sub pay from them, I deserved it! Don’t quit or you won’t get that sub pay if you are RIF’d. I worked there 28 years…dependable and always over 100% production. I am 57yrs old and it s—s trying to find a new job! I was dedicated to Anthem but they definitely were NOT to me! All the executives care about is their bank accounts! I could go on and on, can’t stand Anthem anymore!
No, I'm not assuming you're young. I'm not sure how you got that from my post but anyway good to hear you're also down on any complaining about gen z / millenials.
The “black box” that pops up briefly is typically VPN connection related. The company can (and likely does) take screenshots of computer without any obvious pop up. This is standard practice at most companies— and should not be a concern for anyone who is using company equipment & time, appropriately. Always best to assume that ALL activities including key strokes can be monitored. We are being paid to work :)
First of all, it's weaksauce to bring anybody's age into this conversation. The fact is Anthem is laying off hundreds of excellent workers, to be replaced by offshore or cheaper help. I just found out from somebody no longer with the company that the RIF was originally planned for 2020, but was put aside due to COVID. Optics... I know of one person who was offered a lower paying job to do more work or he was going to be RIFd. They won't share the number of people kicked.
You assume that I’m young. I just don’t like any form of age discrimination and status quo thinking. I’ve become a grumpy old man having to deal with EBCDIC to ASCII translations and then getting lectured on it. Invent a standard conversion routine and then I’ll listen.
Does anyone know what the medium size black boxes are that pop into the pages/screens on occasion for a split second and then disappear? Is Anthem taking screen captures of what is on the laptop screen in an attempt to justify more people to layoff? If so, all they are capturing is me working.... :)
Boomers on getting slapped by the invisible hand of capitalism: "it's our children's fault!"
The commenter below reminds me of the time when Ronald Reagan was questioned by a young man who asked him how anyone in his generation could possibly even consider the effects of technological advancements.
Reagan replied that they hadn't had time to consider all of those effects because his generation was too busy inventing and building the technology.
Youngsters are always saying variants of the same thing from one generation to another. They have zero respect for the fact that their elders have not only been there and done that, but that they continue to evolve, learn, adjust and invent as well. They're not stuck in time. They're the ones that got you to the point that the world is in and they know how they did it and what the next steps are.
Maybe one day there will be CIOs that learn that too.
“These people are in positions that can't be filled by millennials or gen z cry babies. These positions require years of knowledge and training.”
They don’t teach mainframe in school anymore - I’d cry too if I got a position at Anthem and wished I took that field trip to the museum back in 8th grade.
The knowledge is simply because the system has aged along with the workforce. I’d say you’ve had a pretty good run keeping things status quo.
I would be kinder to these no-good Millennials and cry baby Gen Zs... they’re going to be your leaders when you leave Anthem.
The irony in the fact that you call Gen Z "crybaby" and are you, yourself, being a crybaby, is not lost on me.
FYI, don't be surprised if the Millennials and Gen Z aren't replacing your crusty buns because we're actually more qualified than you. If you spent less time crying and more time on continuous learning, you may not be so easily replaced.
Knowledge != Increased Stock Prices
If a company can still increase profits by laying of knowledgeable high cost workers, then what’s the incentive to change?
If you are in IT, you need to leave. You can find other jobs that pay more with good benefits. You can tell from the job board that in house IT is not a priority. Check out other companies (not UHC) and you will see the difference.
I quit Anthem a year ago after 10 plus years because I'd just had it, and got another job in a couple months at a great company that is not perfect but it's certainly better than Anthem. When I came here I was shocked to learn that the Anthem health plan offered at this company is so much less expensive with way better coverage than what Anthem offers to its own employees. (I went with Kaiser because I didn't want to give Anthem any more of my resources.) But it was an eye opener for sure. FWIW.
You lost me at "gen z cry babies". You're experiencing the only working environment they've ever known. Literally complaining about it then calling them crybabies. Shameful lack of empathy.
This company has changed. I used to be proud to say where I worked. Now , I do not tell anyone. Do they care about members or providers...doubtful. Do they care about employees...hahahh. Very sad to have seen the steady exodus to the unemployment lines for the last 15 years. Out goes the knowledge and people that were around when the culture was a promotion of excellence. Hiring now consists of a temporary body filling a temporary chair with mediocre performance and a toxic culture. The heart and soul of the company has been dismissed like a soiled diaper.
I am glad I came here. I was recently laid off at Centene and was thinking about applying here. Seems like this place isn't any better. Wish you the best of luck. I know how it feels to be sick and tired.