It is apparent that everyone that visits this site hates UP, its management, and the railroads in general. Why then are all of you still working for UP? It seems that for your mental and physical health you would find other employment. Are there no other opportunities where you live? Why do people stay in situations they despise? This seems similar to staying in a horrible marriage year after year hoping it will get better while knowing deep down it won’t. Life is too short to stay somewhere your hate. Each day that goes by is a day you will never get back.
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No one is forced to work anywhere. If you don’t like your job then quit.
I STAY FOR THE FREE HOT DOGS
I come to this site to count my blessings that I was able to retire at 30/60 in 2017 draw 10 weeks vacation and a wad $$$$ of retirement money , my wife gets some also
Hang in there Railroad retirement is great oh and can you please pass the grey poupon Thanks
Why don’t people just leave? Because many of us remember when we loved our jobs and were proud to work for UP. We remember when it was better and we hope that if we can just wait it out a few more years, maybe it’ll get better again. Everything changes every year, so maybe positive change will come (I doubt it, but this is the hope of those who don’t leave). We’ve paid in to RRB for 20 years and don’t want to just walk away now. Or, we know that if we can just make it til we are 60 we’ll be able to retire with our full pension. So, we tolerate. We think that if we’ve survived so far, we can stick it out a little longer. Or, if management, maybe we know we’re probably going to get laid off soon anyway, so we might as well wait until we get the severance package. Why leave for free when you’re bound to be laid off soon anyway? Or, maybe we’ve spent years getting to where we are and the thought of totally starting over at 40, 45, 50, etc is downright frightening and we have a family to support or a mortgage to pay. Walking away is a beautiful idea, but sometimes it’s easier to face the devil you know than the one you don’t.
Ok so let's try to see this from different perspective. There's many people that don't hate the job or company. Most people just hate the management that runs it. I loved the job very much, but I absolutely hated the management. I made that very clear to quite a few of them. I called a few managers out for their lies and mistreatment of others. Train crews would miss an OS, or whatever that wasn't safety related in anyway and would be pulled from service for being insubordinate. Quite a few problems were due to the poor management, and management would yell at the employees for their own failed plans. I still to this day like the work I did there. I just don't think I could ever go back because of the management. They can't be trusted, They WILL lie to the uppers to save their own a55, and most have zero experience in the actual field their in charge of. What I stated can and probably does apply at other RR's The UP and other class 1's were bad long before PSR came around. PSR exacerbated the problem, and made these RR jobs very unattractive to prospective employees. Myself and others like me that have quite a few years under us, are fed up with the BS and leaving.
UP was hands down the worst job I've ever had. Hired on train crew in November, furloughed December the next year. They tried calling me back 6 months later but I realized that I enjoyed my $12.00/hr janitor job more than the RR.
Now making $40.00/hr in a hydroelectric plant, 4 tens and 3 day weekend every damn week. If you hate it, get out. There's other opportunities out there. I come here for the laughs and to remember the UP s...tshow!
UP executives that leave or get fired never go run another major company because their skills (none) don’t translate anywhere else.
80% of the UP employ could not do anything else ,so they should stay there to retirment.
I did leave. I couldn't be happier. I actually have enough energy physically and mentally to enjoy my weekends with my family. The grass is way greener. Get out before you need 2 knee replacements because you got forced to do all the work of your furloughed coworkers.
This is the real deal!
COFC traffic is going to go thru the roof on the LA and RV service units. UP has cut to the bone to please the stockholders and laid off thousands of TEY personal and the pola and POLB officials and shippers yesterday told him better gear up and get ready. Armada of 600 ships are on the way to the west coast are coming and better be ready are else. Service meltdown #8 is coming to LA hub and Roseville and Sunset service unit. Watch out!$$$$
It’s for layoffs and entertainment. It’s a comedy/drama.
RE: Original Poster:
UP is toxic. People come here to vent about it. There’s nothing wrong with that. I would add that unemployment lines have had plenty of people standing in them who, like you and for whatever reason, felt compelled to defend the very people who were systematically screwing them over. I see this all the time. I think it’s a form of Stockholm Syndrome.
Anyone who works at UP and doesn’t already hate their job will eventually. Guaranteed.
Fritz is now throwing a toast fit about
CN & KCS taking away border traffic away from UP at the Laredo gateway.
He screwed up the shippers with PickUp
Setout, Recrew PSR scheme and surcharges and every other service scam, and didn't think someone else wouldn't come along and do better
UP is toast. Fire Lance Fritz and imprisoned him.
I thought this site was for information about layoffs, not entertainment. That’s the problem here, half the people are on here just to troll and act stupid.
What makes you think we still work for UP? This site is entertainment. Lighten up Francis.
I am the one that did the original posting and I do not live UP, actually I hate what has become of the company. I left last year and am happy with the results. The posting was in no way a passive aggressive writing. I was just making a point that if you are truly unhappy you should leave for your health’s sake. Every time someone writes something someone doesn’t agree with someone always posts that they love UP or are a manager and this isn’t so.
I did find other employment, i just come through for the popcorn and lols, this site never dissapoints.
The better question is why people like you that love UP so much feel compelled to come on here and start these silly passive aggressive threads? It is a layoff website and UP is the lowest ranked employee on Glassdoor and the worst company 3 years in a row. The comments on here reflect the feelings of the companies employees.
Since it is socially unacceptable to express our discontentment for UP while we’re at work, we use this site as an outlet to express how we feel and connect with others that share our opinions. It’s not always that easy to just find a new job. Hopefully this answers your question.
I applaud you. This is a good place to work. So why mot enjoy it. I have had some days where I worked hard but have enjoyed it. Some people are not nice and want nothing more than to see this company and coworkers in peril.