Thread regarding IBM layoffs

Bands

Do people get promoted to bands more than 1 above their current one, even if they're doing the responsibilities of a band 2–3 levels above? Or, does it have to go in order? Are there certain time periods that have to elapse before band changes?

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Post ID: @OP+1az8bzfc

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The bands have a wide range as mentioned in the string. It also depends on business unit. i.e. services band 7 is like a s&d 8. Personally unless you want to be a lifeless manager max out at band 9. It gets fierce at 10 and less opportunities for movement.

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Post ID: @7wgs+1az8bzfc

Not to mention that to go from some band to another you have to get a professional certification within IBM… what a shame for a company to require a certification for promotion… what other company does that? None!

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Post ID: @6ult+1az8bzfc

I jumped from band 6 to band 8 after 6 years.

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Post ID: @3okw+1az8bzfc

To be honest, I worked for IBM for over 15 years and only heard of one person getting a band promotion and then it was by one unit.

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Post ID: @3baz+1az8bzfc

The bands have very broad salary ranges that overlap incredibly.. or don't think band bump helps $$ much <-- gotta manage that salary+comp expense

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Post ID: @1qxw+1az8bzfc

I would personally advise anyone working at IBM to think carefully before moving up to a Band 8 position. There are some uniquely nefarious "flexibility" clauses that go with this band which essentially give the company a whole new range of things to penalise you with or even lay you off. I was "offered" a role that was over 200 miles from my home which I turned down. A few months later, I was put at risk of redundancy, the primary reason cited being my "inflexibility". You are literally signing your life away to IBM at band 8 and above so beware.

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Post ID: @1xcr+1az8bzfc

I used to work in global markets, and there was a leadership role done by an SVP. He left and the job was given to a VP. He left and the job was given to a director. A few years later he left, and I had to take over the job as a band 10. The responsibilities never diminished, but there was no promotion. Later I left, and I heard the entire team was cut earlier this year when global markets restructured.

It does not matter how hard you work. When you work in a dying company, you will never be presented the opportunities you deserve.

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Post ID: @1ipt+1az8bzfc

Yes, some who worked in metrics (band 03) are now DPE's (band 07/08)
They made this jump in less than a year too. When you're pretty it helps.

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Post ID: @mdi+1az8bzfc

Do a w3 search for bands or grades. It explains expectations for each band. Each role has its own responsibilities but each band has its expectations and its that measure, to jump higher.
Suggest a conversation with your manager if you feel you should be on higher but what experience, it's one to the next not a wide jump unless the role changes.

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Post ID: @lwj+1az8bzfc

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