Thread regarding IBM layoffs

How do you cope in the new companies?

I understand, everyone is idealizing the new places they went to after IBM, however, no one says much about how difficult that new beginning was.
How much did the knowledge and skills you gained here benefit you?
Was the transition difficult?
Did you have to learn a lot of new things in a short time?

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AWS and others are not worth the wlb. Go research and you’ll find horrible morale and overloaded work stories everywhere. You make more but you won’t have any free time to enjoy it.

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Post ID: @5dot+1b1yFZJV

What is up with all of these fake posts from IBM HR ?

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Post ID: @4vlk+1b1yFZJV

There are companies that are better AND worse than IBM. Need to vet the specific team, coworkers, competition, industry, etc. I would look for an opportunity to learn new skills to improve my career marketability.
There’s probably a higher chance that employees are treated better when the company’s outlook is rosy.

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Post ID: @2kzp+1b1yFZJV

I agree with @alt+1b1yFZJV . You have to decide is more money is what you want, you will definitely have to work a LOT HARDER at AWS or the other Cloud company... at IBM, you still make OK money wise, and the workload is nothing.

Now, I can already hear some IBMers commenting that they are overworked... that is BS!!

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Post ID: @1skx+1b1yFZJV

On how long does it take to learn new stuff, everyone on the team is in the same boat to learn the new stuff. Even the kids straight out of college don’t know the latest.
On the job interview, one can ask about how people get up to speed. Also, if one wants to stay relevant in the industry, one has to learn it sooner or later, so skills stay marketable.
Yes, this takes work. Embracing change we will pay off in the long run.
The alternative is to pray and hope the old skills will last till retirement.

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Post ID: @1mes+1b1yFZJV

Totally agree with the poster who went to a CA startup. As an older software engineer, I went to a Bay Area startup and learned new technologies - AWS, Kerberos, APIs, agile, used the latest tools, and open to being on the cutting edge, so skill sets are updated on the job.
IBM products seems light years behind.
The startup’s culture was upbeat with friendly coworkers and there is more work life balance than at IBM.
The key is to find a GROWING company that is motivated to retain talent.

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Post ID: @1jkp+1b1yFZJV

I have a couple of friends who went to AWS and they love it. They tell me the biggest difference is that they are empowered to make decisions, act fast, and be leaders. Everything is automated through tools while at ibm it’s all spreadsheets and manual work.

Obviously, there’s a lot of work to transition because besides all the technical training, they also make you go through extensive training on leadership principles to make sure you adapt to their culture. In a few months they have accomplished what would take you years at ibm.

I cannot wait to land a job there too.

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Post ID: @1alc+1b1yFZJV

That’s the part no one tells you... they are happier... but iz the $ worth the extra hard work you have to put in? It’s all relative and all about what you want. You want to make more and bust your azz or you want to work at 75% effort, make %75 pay and have good wlb.

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Post ID: @alt+1b1yFZJV

Most people wouldn't be watching this forum after going to new companies. But let me tell you, I went to one startup California based remote location. Experience is pretty good.

I got to learn new things every day. Working on real product. I can put my name in author in the code unlike lengthy copyrights in IBM code. Also, getting a praise from other peers and managers which was not possible in IBM. IBM has too many layers in management so it always felt one manager praise and ask me do something better so that we can show it to upper management. Here's it's totally opposite. For anything small feature also, we have VPs and sometimes CEO joining calls. It's totally different and very good experience so far.

Also, I heard the team is having frequently lunch meetings in downtown, engaging. We have clear vision and mission that won't change every few years. In IBM first it was IBM product, then with Watson and now cloud pak, OpenShift; so many changes within 3-4 years.

Also, let me tell you your IBM tools experience is not at all useful. Like DB2, Cognos, IBM cloud, cloud pals nothing is useful. We are using AWS brand. So redshift, dynamodb, lamda and few other services. And now you realize IBM products are totally waste. But whatever your portfolio might be you can easily adopt it in new companies. In short you don't have to deal with cr-p.

Last thing, you won't be afraid of layoffs as regularly as in IBM. If you find well funded company your job is secured for next 5-10 years in startup. After than it depends on the company growth.

But I enjoy a lot working here compared to IBM. Only drawback is I can't fool my seniors by doing only 30% of the actual work. Because everywhere else you will be dealing with actually smart people. In my previous role in IBM, I was just doing 1 day work in 5 days and still they were feeling I am brilliant and doing a lot of work. That's not possible anywhere. Because tech has grown so much. In IBM we are still 10-15 years behind.

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