Hopefully a troll will report this post back. Over the past 16 months, employees worked from home successfully. They have restored a work/life balance by removing a commute from their day. The call back to the office, has fallen flat, and people are now leaving to look for remote positions. One day a week is a joke. People need flexibility, and with all that we are being asked to do on a daily basis to resolve issues due to the EPIC failure of next gen. Look at the time it takes to resolve tax notices, amendments. Horrible! So Carlos, two choices, see your people leave at a faster pace as you pull them back to a grind, or loosen up the flexibility of working from home. Your choice.
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Of course it will. Because there are nothing but whiny little spoiled brats complaining on this venue; present company excluded as well as a few other grounded people.
Let’s face it, if this site existed in oh, 1980’s it’s my thought that YOU would be on there moaning as well even though most of you call that the golden era.
In reply to the OP....
Regarding the working from home or in the office situation...... rest assured....
I have complete confidence in Carlos. Whatever decision he comes up with it will most assuredly day the wrong one.
There is zero chance I was mistaken since I did have everything documented in emails. I didn't mention all of the communication I had with HR was in the form of emails. They didn't care and i wasn't going to fight a battle I knew i was going to lose. it just would have been nice if they did the right thing since i was a 30 plus year employee but that's not what ADP does.
I’m sure that there’s zero chance that you were mistaken.
One major lesson I take away from this is have HR send a confirmation of all their answers in writing.
ADP is known for pulling fast ones like the previous poster mentioned about the 401k match. A similar situation happened to me when I took the VERP 3 years ago. The package documents stated all dollar amounts were calculated as of June 30th but if you accepted the package you were agreeing to let ADP set your end date. When I was told my end date was June 1st i asked my HR rep if that would impact the dollar amount of my package and she told me absolutely not. Sure enough after i left I received a letter stating my dollar amounts were adjusted due to my last day of employment of June 1st. I called my HR rep back and told her what happened. Here answer was "Well I guess i was misaken, sorry about that". End of story.
Not hearing of many layoffs at all. It seems anyone being let go could be due to legitimate cause whether or not folks want to accept it.
For those that think ADP is laying off people. don't believe it, they are merely FIRING American workers and filling those jobs in India. ADP company stock and bonuses are as high as they have ever been for upper management. I was 'laid off' but an Indian worker in India was moved to another job instead of letting him go and keeping me. He was young, I am alot older with 20+ years experience in the field. ADP could care less about American workers. Not crapping on Indians, great people and some smart people but I can't compete with them in India from here. F* ADP, F* Carlos
To add insult to injury, They took back all their 401k matching for the year since buried on the last page of the 401k info it says if you dont stay the whole year you loss your matching. I did not quit or get fired, that should not apply. That is ~2500 out of my 401k money but yet they state everywhere else your are FULLY vested in 3 years. What a low blow..
HR flat out said that a hit in associate engagement scores and reduced productivity were "expected" when making long-time homeshored employees come back to the office.....ie, they don't matter
Whoever said WFH is a vacation, you're the slacker! And work ethic has eroded, sorry, but you've lost your ever lovin' mind. With all the additional work and training on every interaction with undertrained associates these days, there aren't enough minutes in my day to even complete my work.
Please don't spew your cr-p when you don't know what kind of sm--k you're talking about!
WFH doesn't equate to vacation or sitting around watching Netflix on company time. For some, I'm sure it does, but I think they are the minority. I know I've worked longer hours and have strengthened my bond with my partner and child by eliminating that commute. I wouldn't mind going in a few days a week but 4 is excessive.
Being in an office doesn't mean people are working either. One of my co-workers regularly went to the gym for 2+ hours every day before COVID! I'm sure they're happy those facilities are open again!
Also, it's funny that there's a seminar on the benefits of Remote Teams happening tomorrow (6/23) sponsored by ADP and Globalization Partners. Ironic, huh?
What was said in the update?
Can easily identify the boomers in this conversation. ADP will never adapt, it's why I just accepted a fully remote job at a true tech company.
@3dwe+1bpYe18N - they released an update in web chat today for "water cooler" talk. 😂 Seems like wfh is too productive so they want people to waste time.
If WFH is supposed to be a vacation, then ADP was stupid in implementing it, COVID or no COVID. A company cannot function with all of its employees on vacation all the time. Talk about inept management.
For OP - I hear a lot of people suggest that Next Gen is not functioning correctly (even though Carlos and SLT exclaim its huge success) - What I haven't understood is whether there is a specific part of Next Gen that is not functioning. It sounds like it's the taxes piece, which is the part that affects the MOST clients - is that right?
Does accountability for your workday threaten you?
May I ask why?
It’s ironic the whole “water-cooler” argument for pushing people back in the office when at the same time they are introducing new time tracking that will micromanage every minute of an employees day. They allowed and even encouraged WFH for two decades. Now they want to be a “technology company” and have shifted in the opposite direction of some of the most successful technology companies. Should be interesting to see how this goes.
WFH slackers….the days are quickly passing.
Time to put an honest days work in.
@2nux+1bpYe18N - only salaried employees should do so.
So does that mean employees should no longer work from home on the weekends or late into the night at home? That's awesome because it will cut their work time down from 60 hours to 40. What a great idea. (Sarcasm for those that can't recognize it.)
Why do you equate wfh with vacation ? I find that when working from home people work more ? Also most cutting edge leading companies have wfh ? Are their employees not some of the best ?
The WFH vacation is rapidly ending. Time to be adults again.
Oh, how the work ethic of this country has eroded.
So many companies are doing at least 2 days per week wfh (bare minimum). If ADP doesn’t benchmark themselves to at least that, or look at other flexible options, they’re going to increase their costs with higher attrition rates, increase employee dissatisfaction and generally make it harder on themselves. And it will only continue to backfire on them in perpetuity.