Thread regarding Gulfstream Aerospace layoffs

$5000 finders fee??? Really??

So does anyone else think it is the ultimate in stupidity that GAC is offering us $5,000 to help them find people to come work here? I know more then a dozen top notch 650 guys who would have given their left nut to not have been axed during the pandemic. They left with a lot of experience and corporate memory. I’d like the cash, but I wouldn’t ask anyone I actually respected to come here. I know how the axe is constantly swinging and I’d be to blame for their being treated the way GAC treats talent.

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To new hire analyst. It’s not based on position. If you are over 50 and fairly well paid you are likely on the list. I am guessing they paid some outside lawyers big money to help them figure out how to get around age discrimination because that has been their focus the last several layoffs.

The basic recipe is:
1) Say you are doing a reorg but don’t announce any details
2) Make part of the criteria whether the employee will fit in the new org. No one can question this part of the criteria since the details aren’t provided.
3) Sprinkle in some younger people on the list
4) Layoff mostly older people who are paid well
5) Have them sign they agree not to be considered for future employment as part of the severance package
6) Wait a short period of time and then rehire the positions with younger, lower paid people
7) Celebrate your brilliance and awesome leadership skills with big bonuses for the executives for saving so much money
8) Make some more really bad decisions
9) Go back to step 1

The lawyers didn’t provide the last 2. Those are courtesy of GAC and GD leadership.

For any other company reading this, you are welcome. I just saved you from paying those lawyers huge fees to tell you how to sc--w your long term, loyal employees.

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Post ID: @fptr+1cOUQhEf

New hire analyst here, curious which positions are most susceptible to layoffs.

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Post ID: @elvu+1cOUQhEf

Agree. Company used the pandemic to fire those of us with enough experience to get planes certified without fudging documentation. AR appreciated me, but director hated it when I tried to stop shortcuts. Well, now he got fired , and those not walked to the door are running it.

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Post ID: @bmgy+1cOUQhEf

@harsh reality - I know a couple guys walked to the door after the whistle-blower fiasco that might have been smarter to listen to guys with 15 years experience getting planes certified instead of laying them off and taking unethical short cuts. Maybe you’re one of them?

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Post ID: @5lxl+1cOUQhEf

Ultimate in incompetence. Pay severance to people with experience you now need so now you have to pay to try to replace them with people that won’t have experience. Then there will be another layoff soon. Isn’t anyone paying attention to these great decisions. Seems more like a storyline from the old 3 stooges show. At least GAC is providing great case studies for business schools.

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Post ID: @3kob+1cOUQhEf

You’d have to pay me a lot more than $5000 to bring another person into this sh-t show. No one respects this company anymore. I know for a fact that a bunch of leads commit time card fraud on a weekly basis. The clock each other in on a Sunday and get double time and not even at work. They approve each other’s time. It’s a great racket they got. To bad I’m not in the club.

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Post ID: @1zqz+1cOUQhEf

“So does anyone else think it is the ultimate in stupidity that GAC is offering us $5,000 to help them find people to come work here? I know more then a dozen top notch 650 guys who would have given their left nut to not have been axed during the pandemic.” The harsh reality is “The G650 guys” are about 15 years behind the certification/technology curve. It’s time for the “G650 Guys” to get over their Al Bundy high school football glory days. Your time has passed, evolve while you still can.

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Post ID: @1bec+1cOUQhEf

The campaign say’s “ refer a friend “ .... my reply “loose a friend “ for 5K

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Post ID: @ahk+1cOUQhEf

I know a guy who was asked back 3 months after the May 2020 purge. Director who fired him was new and didn’t know his capabilities at the time he was canned. Told him they “cut too deep”. Guy had just accepted another job and said “no”, although the Understands layoffs are sometimes needed. But The company needed to be dammnn sure it was necessary to do a layoff and not yank people around like that. other job involved moving in the middle of the pandemic which s@cked for his family. Great guy, hard worker. Beat the rest of us in each morning and was there after most skated. Always had a great attitude. He’s from a military family and he told me has a problem with disloyalty - can’t abide by it and was insulted being asked back. Like many of us he lost trust and respect for the company and its leadership. I wouldn’t recommend to someone else to work at Gulfstream unless I hated them. Im looking for my own way out.

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