Thread regarding Marathon Petroleum layoffs

I’m considering a job here

Was offered a job at marathon.. after reading this posts I have serious doubts. Is the company really this bad?

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Post ID: @OP+1chSk8y7

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It’s an awesome place to work, ignore the village id--ts and come on board this gravy train, you’ll be glad you did!

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Post ID: @15jfc+1chSk8y7

Come see me in Findlay. I am the definition of diversity.

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Post ID: @uzkn+1chSk8y7

Perhaps the decision was made from the jump. Glassdoor reviews would be a better place to get feedback. You did ask on “the layoff.com”. We all come on here to find out if we’re about to get fired. Hahaha. It’s interesting to see some come here to defend the company they’re worried will lay them off.

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Post ID: @gtfm+1chSk8y7

Wishing the best there are companies with better leadership and culture out there!! Less good ole boy and more focused on accomplishing in teamwork.

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Post ID: @gplx+1chSk8y7

Smart move, you dodged getting onboard a sinking w

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Post ID: @ftdr+1chSk8y7

I am the original poster. Thanks everyone for the feedback, I ended up declining the offer - just didn’t feel MPC was a good fit for me.

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Post ID: @fubw+1chSk8y7

@enla+1chSk8y7
If you're the one who's been blathering, in the comments below, about things you obviously know nothing about first-hand, I'm glad to hear that you'll stop or at least only comment on what you actually know first-hand.

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Post ID: @enhj+1chSk8y7

@cq11 I am not going to post company info in a public forum like this. If you really want to know, talk to any front line employee and actually listen.

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Post ID: @enla+1chSk8y7

Ive been told Hennigan ran Sunoco into the ground. MPC is next

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Post ID: @bjji+1chSk8y7

Speaking of GBR, there is a book called “Failure to Learn - the BP Texas City Refinery disaster” by Andrew Hopkins. I fear that MPC is repeating some of the same mistakes.

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Post ID: @bwzd+1chSk8y7

Go figure mpc is blaming Galveston bay on TSO.. haha

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Post ID: @9aow+1chSk8y7

You're probably right, I might have the El Paso and the Galveston refineries mixed up. I worked with liaisons from all the Western Refining and Tesoro refineries and heard story after story about one "difficult" refinery. It's also possible that the stories came from the BP days since Arco was part of BP before Tesoro bought them out. I joined Tesoro a few months after they acquired the Arco assets from BP, I was hired to support the old Arco sites. I work in process controls and was part of an initiative to standardize interfacing the various systems across all the "Andeavor" refineries to a central data repository and my information was from the local engineers and IT folk.

As far a not kissing rings, IMO, all refineries are a bit defiant and downright hostile at times. I've worked with them back in the 90's. Doesn't matter if you have the same company logo, if you don't work within the refinery fence line, you're a peasant. Don't know why they are that way towards the pipeline and storage groups.

While I don't agree with all the statements from the previous poster, I do agree there was, and still is, a lot of "it's the MPC's way or the highway" from the perspective of legacy Andeavor personnel such as myself.

IMO, Valero is a better place to work overall than MPC but I would not say the same of the other big competitors to MPC. Smaller companies in the same field are typically better places to work overall as well as long as you are comfortable choosing work environment over compensation.

I'm not trying to start a p*ssing contest with anyone, I just know that MPC is not that bad, IMO they are pretty good, compared to other companies I have worked with as a contractor/consultant or as an employee. I will concede that my rose color glasses might be because most of my time with the company was spent as Tesoro but after 2 1/2 years I am not experiencing the horror stories being written about on this board.

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Post ID: @9bct+1chSk8y7

Lol agreed. It was bought in 2013 from BP prior to being Amoco. MPC hates this facility because they wouldn’t kiss the ring and tell them how amazing they were. MPC has taken this out on newly acquired Tesoro sites. No idea legacy Tesoro ever had was any good. Everything MPC does is perfect. If you’re L6 you can do no wrong. L10 is wrong for exciting. The company is broken and will never integrate correctly being of this 2 class system. Probably ok at the L6 living in the middle of no where, but maybe avoid the L10 sites, they’ve already knocked it down to 8. If anything goes wrong Im sure it will be legacy Tesoro’s fault.

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Post ID: @9oxw+1chSk8y7

@8lni+1chSk8y7:
I think you've got your information on the Galveston Bay Refinery mixed up. It was never a Western Refining or Tesoro/Andeaver refinery. Marathon purchased it from BP who acquired it from Amoco through their merger. How did you arrive at your conclusions?
Did you ever even work there?

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Post ID: @9phi+1chSk8y7

MPC is not a horrible place to work.

I would take comments from Galveston Bay Refinery personnel with a grain of salt. That facility was difficult to deal with for Western Refining and Tesoro/Andeavor. It seemed like everyone from top to bottom did not want to listen to any outsiders despite them having a poor track record of performance and safety. It felt like working with a bunch of people stuck in their old ways and out of touch. Some great people but stubborn as heck and unwilling to see the writing on the wall.

Like any large corporation, there are cliques, favoritism, nepotism and any other myriad of things to point out and focus on as negative at MPC. There is nothing significantly worse at MPC than other companies in their industry or any industry. It may be that some people do not have a lot of experience at other companies or other industries.

There are many benefits and opportunities to working at MPC that you do not find at other companies. Plus, as some have already mentioned, there are some locations that are fantastic (Denver is one of my fav locations to visit). I have worked in oil and gas, mining, food processing, pharmaceutical, biotech, water treatment, material handling, and a few other industries. I've worked with/for several companies as an employee and contractor for over 29 years. In my opinion, oil and gas is second only to pharmaceutical and biotech when it comes to employee compensation and benefits. All the other industries are typically 15%-20% lower in compensation and almost none offer pensions and bonus programs to non-executives. MPC is near the top with its peers in oil and gas industry with employee compensation and culture. They are not the best but far from the worst.

All that being said, I did prefer Andeavor over MPC. There was an entrepreneurial spirit at ANDX that was lost when MPC bought them out. I cherished the fact that it did not matter what title, location, or pay grade you were in order to get recognized, promoted, and handsomely rewarded when you went above and beyond. Feel more like a cog in the machine now vs. the problem solver I used to be at ANDX. There is also a little too much "good ole boy" culture at MPC for my taste.

I have plenty of friends and former collogues at other companies in the industry (Valero, Phillips, Shell, and BP) and nothing they are experiencing would make me want to jump ship. Recruiters are always reaching out to me but doing the same work at MPC competitors would just be a lateral move financially and doing the same job in other industries usually requires a small pay cut and losing my pension benefit.

Good luck, hope your decision works out for the best.

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Post ID: @8lni+1chSk8y7

Yes its that bad. After putting up with se-ual abuse I was finally dumped by the only company I ever worked for. Now I am finding out what it is like to work in a healthy environment. They love me.

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Post ID: @8vxq+1chSk8y7

Can't echo enough to stay away from Galveston Bay. Place is an unreliable death trap. Morale is terrible. Managements #1 focus is keeping the brass in Findlay happy who likely haven't been in the field in 20+ years. Really took a turn downhill when Andeavor was purchased and spread the already thin investments out over even more plants. Worked in multiple other legacy Marathon sites (pre-GBR) and they are mostly good plants to work at.

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Post ID: @8hmb+1chSk8y7

I think we have our new company tag line..
“Passion for mediocrity”. Hahahaha

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Post ID: @8umg+1chSk8y7

Are you a middle aged white male Christian with a passion for mediocrity? Does the thought of doing anything different frighten you?

If yes to ALL of these questions, go for it!

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Post ID: @8xxg+1chSk8y7

Nieto describes the atmosphere perfectly with their analogy.

MPC seems to be on a endless quest for "efficiencies," but does so by handcuffing the refineries with miles of red tape to conform to - thereby squashing any chance of actual improvement.

Half of the directives that come down reek of some middle manager in corporate trying to justify their position for another day. Andeavor should have never sold to MPC, its been a long downhill slide ever since.

And at the end of the day, you're still not sure if your 'wife' is going to walk out and leave you high and dry on a whim.

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Post ID: @6goz+1chSk8y7

Yeah this company is terrible. I joined in Findlay right before COVID, and am shocked how bad it is. Biggest mistake of my career was coming MPC, and am trying my hardest to get out

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Post ID: @5pon+1chSk8y7

The people who are saying "it's not that bad" are only able to say that because they have truly not experienced employment outside of MPC. Most of those who have left recently (which is a lot) have found significantly better pay, undoubtedly better company morale, and generous work, and flexible options.

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Post ID: @5psy+1chSk8y7

Working for MPC right now is like working and being nice to a wife you think is having a affair but your not sure. You want to do your best and strive for a better future… but you cant trust that they will not sell you out and leave you with nothing. Everything MPC does seems to require more people… more money and more time. Not sustainable for all refineries. They want efficiency and cost savings but will spend more time and money on counting the beans than we have beans. Final thought…. There is a gaping ho-e in the bow of the ship and MPC is focused on the upholstery in the captains cabin.

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Post ID: @5hdn+1chSk8y7

I think there are over 15,000 employees at the company. Don't let the 30 who post on here discourage you.

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Post ID: @4dvw+1chSk8y7

Apparently the culture in upper management is trickling down to the p-e ons at the refineries. Stay away from Galveston Bay. It's really bad.

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Post ID: @4snl+1chSk8y7

Yes it’s that bad.
No you should not consider the job.
No one should willingly begin a career in oil.
It’s a stagnant industry with lackluster talent

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Post ID: @2wlm+1chSk8y7

Stay away from Galveston Bay like it's the plague. Everyone is looking for exit options. I've worked at a few of the other plants they weren't to bad.

If you are fresh out of college I recommend a completely different industry if possible.

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Post ID: @1qfq+1chSk8y7

If you are at a refinery or field location shouldn't be an issue. Most of posts about culture mainly in corporate office. Even then positives of the job mostly outweigh what's been said on this board.

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Post ID: @1xpm+1chSk8y7

What location and department?

Can’t recommend working in Findlay

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Post ID: @1gov+1chSk8y7

Depends on a lot of things. What you want, who your boss is, where you are located, what part of the business...

I'd say morale is pretty low tho generally speaking. Not seeing much change on that front.

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Post ID: @gxq+1chSk8y7

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