My team is stretched thin as it is. We lose one more person, we're screwed. How do I explain to a good-for-nothing manager who got there because he kissed the right a-s and has no idea what we do that work won't get done if one more person is laid off or leaves on his/her own?
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You don’t. You find another job and watch the dumpster fire from afar.
It really is that simple. Nothing will change there, nothing.
Oracle is 289th best company to work for. HR is ground up po-p. The manager is probably someone who hasn’t and will not care for a long time. You sound like a colleague of mine. In any case start interviewing. I am. This company is the worst company I’ve ever worked for. No one cares about anything but collecting a check. I sure as he-l don’t. Oracle is and has been a joke for the last 15 years. I didn’t know it the whole time but it’s a place where losers are grown and cultivated. My old manager is about good enough to run the hot dog stand at wawa. His LinkedIn is pathetic. A damn monkey could get in via an acquisition. Hey. At least Mark Hurd wont be back. Hahaha. Hee haw.
Remember what LE said. The plan is to let sections of Oracle "melt away". Could be your team is melting, and it might be intended. They don't really care about what is doable and what is not. They just care about the stock price. Even if everyone left, they wouldn't see the reality and then again, maybe it would just be a new reality and they would just stop working on or supporting the software that you work on. That might be just fine with the top guys. So long as it doesn't immediately affect the stock price, it's OK with them. Your manager probably does not care either.
It is time for you to look to your own future. Start looking for where you will go next. There is no real future at Oracle. Any investment on your part into your organization will be wasted by the management. They won't understand the details of what you do and what is important. They don't care what you do, you are simply one extra person that takes money from LE.
Time to find your next place. Oracle is a waste of your time. Always remember that.
They don't learn bro. Big dog put his little dog in place as a manager and my whole team bailed in less than 12mo. They just limp along. Blame the "market" for paying too much and HR for not giving them enough money. Meanwhile those managers shaft everyone on bonuses. That way they can protect their OWN bonus level by making it look like their team is lean lol. Those people are trash and the ones that promote people only because they are their little b.... dog's can eat s#@!*
You probably need to see if your product is on priority. Everywhere, thats the harsh truth. Does $$ investment into the product in terms of people and resources, give returns. If not, you can continue to bleed people and derail the project, and no one will care. This is the exact reason, you need good managers who can convince their top execs to spend $$ for their projects. They will need to show projected return of investments and why retaining, onboarding good talent is necessary
Stop it with the vaccine mandate BS. The vast majority of us are vaccinated (Well over 75% where I live). And the vast majority of us at Oracle work from home and have been working from home long before the pandemic even happened. Therefore any discussion about a vaccine mandate is irrelevant for most of us. We don't want to hear your BS about vaccine mandates Go back to fb. Thank you. The topic from the OP is that they feel their team is already cut to the bone and their team can't afford to lose one more person. Some of the other (non-Covid BS, non-vaccine BS) comments here are quite good -- It does not matter what your group does or how under-staffed and over-worked your team is -- None of that comes into the calculation at RIF-time. Sorry to say.
The mandatory vaccine mandate is going to make it worse. Get ready.
< We can't afford to lose more people
While that may be the case for your team, it certainly is not the case for Oracle as a whole. Your team (I don't care what your team does) is expendable. ALL that really matters is the stock price and how many shares LE and SK have vested. That's it. Everyone else, including you, your team, and your manager is expendable. It's harsh, but it's the truth, so deal with it.
When one more person leaves.... then if things don't get done they will understand. But more likely than not, somehow everything will get done.
Don't bother explaining. If you dislike your manager that much then leave Oracle. He will then be forced to learn the hard way.
You are stretched thin, but the total number of employees is at a high water mark. There are tons of people, but they are all allocated to areas they care about, or have a future.
Read the writing on the wall! Get out!
If you think that they are unaware, you are incorrect. They just don’t care. Sorry if that is a shock to you.