Thread regarding Union Pacific Corp. layoffs

LA railway route

After seeing the news about all those packages on the ground in Los Angeles , do you think UPS will give UP anymore
shipping contracts?

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This is what happens when bean counters run a railroad instead of actual railroaders. Now the bean bag has been torn open, and the weight of all those beans is causing more and more beans to fall out. Penny wise and pound foolish !

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Post ID: @4euf+1eOgCazX

@hlv I would say you're exactly right but there's details that were left out. These trains are sitting long enough to be looted because there's a rather large personnel shortage going on. The UP executives are having the time of their lives right now trying to fill positions. The PSR BS is causing trains to sit longer, because they are longer with no real place to put them OR the power to pull them. The last video I saw was a UP train being looted while moving. So I wouldn't assume it's only the trains that are sitting anymore. The increased opportunity for theft came about when the defund the police movement was started. Did you notice the stories about stores being looted? Did you hear about the story of the California lawmakers downgrading violations to misdemeanors and petty theft? This all boils down to very poor decision making. They thought with their hearts, and not their heads. The CEO decided the UP special agents were an unnecessary entity, and got rid of them. I'm betting the CEO is regretting those decisions now. He should be held equally liable for this, considering he contributed to this by getting rid of the special agents.

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Post ID: @4ksc+1eOgCazX

So, to those that work that specific corridor, is PSR causing those trains to sit idle longer in that area due to train length and other PSR factors?

I suspect they sit idle longer while they build and air test these monsters, and they get held out of the terminal for longer periods of time due to no room to yard them. Hence the increased opportunity for theft.

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Post ID: @4hlv+1eOgCazX

The leaders at the top should be maid liable! They created this mess, chasing false metrics to appease shareholder greed. These are the consequences. Just like they furloughed workers in every field. Now they want to hire people back. The folks like Fritz, Vena, Beth, should be brought up on charges

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Post ID: @3hte+1eOgCazX

The trains get looted at CP WORTH to CP YUMA jct along Valley blvd in the trench.
WE don't change crews in the trench but up in the LATC yard. GET IT??

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Post ID: @3gob+1eOgCazX

Why are trains stopped there long enough to be looted ? Is it near a crew change area ?

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Post ID: @3sgh+1eOgCazX

To be clear, the Special Agents were not furloughed. They were either let go or they left for other departments that paid more, have better hours, better retirements, better medical, better policies. The Agents have to follow safety rules like not running on UP property. This includes running after criminals. If you get hurt while doing your job you get in trouble.

In short, UP defunded them, didn’t give them the proper resources, held them to rules so they couldn’t do the job properly, and treated them like security guards. Union Pacific is the cause of the unsafe work conditions, employee injuries due to trespassers, graffiti, and thefts.

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Post ID: @3cou+1eOgCazX

Our PO at the LATC doesn't give a damn!
The company lied to him and others.
So sc--w the UP.

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Post ID: @3lvc+1eOgCazX

I don't think it's about accepting responsibility, as much as who's going to be held liable for it. It's no real secret that the UP got rid of much of their special agents. You know, the people that possibly could've prevented a large majority of this. If a federal inquiry is filed, do you think that maybe the question of WHY would they get rid of so many special agents? Why would they get rid of so many people that could run these trains, to keep things moving faster. Some officials are already asking big questions about PSR and the effects it's had so far. The UP has been dealing with one PR problem after another. At the end of the day, the UP is going to be answering tough questions about their operations. I sure hope those executives have their affairs in order.

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Post ID: @3cij+1eOgCazX

UP will not accept any responsibility for this. Already on the company home page there is a propoganda article about why this is happening. Funny, the propaganda does not make one mention of all the Special Agent layoffs with PSR. Defund the police, UP lead the way. Tell the truth UP!

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Post ID: @2myj+1eOgCazX

Ahhhh Karma. I love it. UP absolutely deserves this and all the negative publicity.

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Post ID: @2uhu+1eOgCazX

Maybe hire back all the agents you furloughed

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Post ID: @2xkk+1eOgCazX

The facts
The police (special agent) force was massive

They offered special agents the opportunity to go non union. Manager benefits, retirement etc .

They took it like a rat on a cheeto.

What happens next....?????

STEP INTO MY OFFICE. You're all fired..
They voted in their demise.

Have a safe and productive day my fellow employees.

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Post ID: @2eve+1eOgCazX

Why does anyone think that this isn't the company's fault or at least partially their fault? Someone else posted about the special agents and laying them off. You could've looked in any direction and seen at least 2 agents before the layoffs. Well I haven't seen one agent in at least 3 years or more. Back then, you had employees chirping on the radio about trespassers on the property as well. Back then, the employees actually cared about the company. Now you have minimal special agents to combat this problem, and employees have been beaten and abused to the point where they absolutely do not care anymore. Please explain how the actions of the corporate clowns in Omaha, did not contribute to this problem or create it entirely.

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Post ID: @2wsj+1eOgCazX

The UP police had a full time special team in LA to handle these type of issues. As a matter of fact, they did their job so well and had the burglaries stopped that the great minds that lead UP decided to get rid of them all during PSR. Every one knew it was only a matter of time until this got out of hand, and here we are. You want to fix this problem UP? Go back to police staffing levels before PSR..2018 and earlier. I am no UP exec, but I can tell you having 5-10 total agents in Southern, CA like you have now to cover 24/7 365 is not going to work. UP's answer right now?? Send the agents from elswhere across the system to stay in LA for weeks at a time. Yeah, that will work and be a permanent solution. How about the fact they can not do their job in their own areas because they are in California. Ever hear of sFety and burnout UP? You preach it, but it is all smoke and mirrors. This is the truth, no matter what kind of spin UP will put on this issue. Give up on the PSR $ grab and staff the police department UP. You will be shocked, but things will go back to how they uses to be. Cargo losses will drop, customers will be satisfied.

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Post ID: @2wri+1eOgCazX

Same thing happening on BNSF lines.

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Post ID: @2fnn+1eOgCazX

yes u.p fault. they are responsible for my freight. do away with special agents remember that? remember rail security and terrorism? we cant even keep pilferers and grafitti sprayers off the property. them poor old investors need all the profit they can get. sorry state of affairs like our contracts.

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Post ID: @1vna+1eOgCazX

Yes they will…..not much choice but to do so. Not so much UP’s fault, you need to realize where this happened.

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Post ID: @1bmu+1eOgCazX

Propaganda cuts every switch a way.

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Post ID: @ags+1eOgCazX

I see it everyday!
From CP yuma jct to CP worth

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Pretty good huh!
Our local PO just kicks it and doesn't do a thing.

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