Thread regarding CareFirst BlueCross BlueShield layoffs

Lots of better options out there

I’m still here because at my age it’s not easy to start all over. However, after seeing how many better options there are now, I don’t intend to stay here even if I was to get a huge raise, and that won’t happen.
Why would someone stay here when they can easily get a better paid job with much better benefits?

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Post ID: @OP+1eViCdSC

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Let’s face it people are not happy and you shouldn’t have to worry if you are going to have a job each day and then they expect you to work nonstop. Heard a few more are leaving CTS/ITOPS group soon after our small bonus.

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Post ID: @bzkv+1eViCdSC

You are all reading this wrong. People are just saying that there’s better opportunity out there and you should move on. Genuinely.

People check the site because they still have a lot of friends and former colleagues there that they care about and want to see them happy and not treated poorly.

AND, really though, maybe, just maybe, some people still give a sh-t about the people (some of them at least) they worked with and care about who may still be in this environment - and actively trying to get people out for better opportunities. But read into it how you wish!

You’re all in control of your career whether you think it or not. No decision is a decision. Complaining is just complaining. I don’t think anyone’s trying to taunt or make people feel inferior all they’re saying is there’s better opportunity out there in the market and it is best to move on like others did who are now posting to show what’s possible … happier and doing much better financially. Trying to disarm you about the change not being so scary.

Is that a bad thing to wish for people? I don’t think so.

Seriously though, there’s a couple of you who just post doom and gloom with nothing positive to share. Others come here to share positive changes that you could benefit from but some lead with negativity. For those hyper negative and quick to judge, maybe your issue is you. Perhaps a check in the mirror may lead to where the problem really is.

Maybe you should stop trolling people on LinkedIn and instead stop and ask them for help. You’d be surprised at the response. I don’t think you’re here for help, but I do have a mirror referral for you nonetheless.

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Post ID: @anzy+1eViCdSC

It’s true, the betrayal does cut deep. However when I see a “former VP” who is now bragging about making “200k+ more per year” it seems less about betrayal and more taunting those of us still worried about our livelihood and looking to these boards to let us know if another layoff is coming our way

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Post ID: @6gnn+1eViCdSC

@6afc+1eViCdSC,

It’s because betrayal being lied to, and being back stabbed cuts deep. One doesn’t easily forget.

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Post ID: @6oyy+1eViCdSC

@6rzv+1eViCdSC Thank you! I check this website because I’m worried about another IT reorg when they promote someone to CIO. I don’t understand why former employees who have been gone for 2 years and are so much happier are still checking this website and humble bragging about how happy they are. Great to see RP is working as a director and happy. Cool story bro. But it’s not adding up that these people are so happy but still come back to this board. I understand being let go is traumatizing, I really do. But at 2+ years post layoff where you’re making so much more, why are you still coming back? Cut the cord, move on. I hope that once I’m out to never look back.

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Post ID: @6afc+1eViCdSC

@6rzv+1eViCdSC $126k is the low end of what a Prog Mgr would be making at the time of the first layoff. That's a really sh*tty salary for a Director at CF. And the entire contingent of VPs in IT were so freaking paranoid that one of their subordinates might look good that they squashed any ideas or attempts to improve things that might put them in the spotlight. Once people were in the rarified light of Senior Leadership they shut the door tight behind them. The IT VPs couldn't make a decision to save their lives and then proceeded to put staff on the layoff list who they felt were a threat. Loved hearing how shocked VPs were when they were when they got let go as if they were untouchable. Look, it's uncomfortable to talk about your own salary with your coworkers, but do it. Find out what each of you are making and start demanding pay raises outside of CAD. Actively interview for a job even if you don't think you're leaving CF. If I could, that's what I'd tell my younger self. If you have a job you're in a secure place and it's a good spot to be to find one where maybe the pay is better and/or you'll be happier. No place is perfect, but sadly CF is rotten and won't be changing anytime soon.

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Post ID: @6fih+1eViCdSC

@3ccc+1eViCdSC "I was getting paid $126,000 plus bonus got laid off"

Sounds suspiciously like whining from a former director (PB) who wasn't laid off but got fired in 2018. She was constantly battling her EVP (W*B) and doing end-arounds directly to BDP when he was COO. He then becomes CEO and a month later this poor excuse for management got sent packing. Shows little class to be bragging about one's actual salary when so many lower paid associates struggle paycheck to paycheck.

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Post ID: @6rzv+1eViCdSC

So many better options out there. I was a VP in IT and I now work as a Director and make $200k more in total comp (base+bonus+RSUs) than when at CF. Did I mention full time remote contract too! Move on folks, CF is not the place for you. They’ve flushed millions and frankly don’t want to listen to the smart folks who actually care about doing the right thing….move on. It’s much better out there in the market.

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Post ID: @4zvh+1eViCdSC

I was getting paid $126,000 plus bonus got laid off with the Sandy Dilworth’s and Michele Wright’s soooo I was with The original layoff, the one that really HURT Carefirst in 2019 because KEY KEY KEY people were let go AND my new job offered $160,000 with a 30% performance bonus!! So, THANKS CAREFIRST for laying me off and giving me a great severance package!!!! I’m not mad Carefirst lol lol lol !!!!!!!! Peace!!!

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Post ID: @3ccc+1eViCdSC

I haven't found that benefits are "much better" but pay sand culture sure as he-l are.

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Post ID: @2ptz+1eViCdSC

Right? I would bet my 401k that after benefits, AIP, and merit disappointments....many will join you. Mass exodus...

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