Thread regarding Norfolk Southern Corp. layoffs

Is it harder for them to retrain employees or attract new ones?

I think that NS is in big trouble and it will get worse. Neither do my colleagues intend to stay here (everyone is already looking for new jobs), nor do the new people with skills and experience want to come here.
It is no longer clear what is harder for this company, to keep people or to attract new hires. These are unfortunately the consequences of long-term mismanagement.

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My wife is a conductor for NS (14+ years) and just spent 44 hours in a less than 5 star hotel at her away terminal. Last trip it was 38 hours at the away terminal. Because of her contract, she got 8 hours of held away pay last trip, and 14 hours this trip. She got called right back out last trip and I'm sure she will again after she gets home. But she did get a nice fleece shirt with the NS logo embroidered on it, so I guess that makes it all ok. It has boggled my mind for quite some time how a billion dollar company can be so mismanaged.

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Post ID: @lltc+1f124pZU

Good chance being a conductor you won’t be here in 5 years anyway. Run as fast as you can.

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Post ID: @8ito+1f124pZU

The fact that you most likely won’t be employed in 5 years should give you massive second thoughts.

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Post ID: @7qgn+1f124pZU

I applied and got an offer for conductor last week. I'm 55 in The lure of the pension is very promising. But the morale and the reviews are giving me second thoughts. In the initial stage of hiring.

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Post ID: @7pqh+1f124pZU

I retired 6 years ago after 42 years of service. I notice in these threads that someone always seems to make a political comment. Let me tell you, neither the republicans or the democrats gives a rats * about you or your problems. Anybody that believes differently is a fool. As to the union, they want your money. This I know from first hand experience. Put up with the bull or quit, that's up to you, but don't think for a minute either party or the union is going to help you.

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Post ID: @6mnh+1f124pZU

They have no problem retaining the ones who just spent 20 years building enough seniority to get good shifts and good days off only to have that ripped away like an aborted fetus due to PSR. Most of that group is 50+ years old and so heavily invested in railroading they would have a hard time moving on. The new hires don’t have any incentive to tolerate the BS that goes on at the bottom of the seniority list. Great pay has been replaced with slightly better than average pay, in 2 more years it won’t even be average pay.

You tell them “Hey! Stick around for a nice cooler or a shirt every few years!” and you’d think they would stick around for that, but they just laugh like it’s some kind of sick disgusting joke! Then they leave never to be seen again...

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Post ID: @4hfz+1f124pZU

We had 25 people walk away last year most between 10 and 15 years, there are so many jobs out there paying good money with weekends off, why would they stay? 2 people have already left in January, 1 with 16 years. The hired 10 laborers and 5 have already quit before they started. The only way they are going to get more people is raises and get out of the mentality of Tues, Weds off, there is no reason not to split the weekend?

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Post ID: @3buu+1f124pZU

The word is out no one wants to work for them. Most that do are trapped by the retirement. They didn't get rated 2 nd worse in 2020 for nothing.

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Post ID: @2wzm+1f124pZU

Not sure where you work but I get my ba--s bashed in on the regular. Maybe you've heard of Norris yard?

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Post ID: @1jmg+1f124pZU

The problem is most people are stuck. The job is so easy, and you can be practically re--rded to do it, not many places will hire these guys. Sure, there may be higher paying jobs out there, but you'll be getting your ba--s bashed in for 8-12 hours a day.

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Post ID: @1ebi+1f124pZU

No, just waiting to see what the contract brings. I have 12 years in and am willing to walk. I am tired of not having sick days and using what little vacation days I have when sick. There is no excuse. The skilled labor jobs have caught up to us and some have surpassed in terms of wages and benefits. The time for moving is now. The railroad is terrible compared to when I started.

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Post ID: @1cdq+1f124pZU

It’s nothing money can’t solve. Raise the wages to a respectable level and people will do what they gotta do.

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Post ID: @1qtu+1f124pZU

I would say its probably harder to attract new employees. While it may be easy to hire a batch, most will quit before they even get started (less than a year).

As far as retaining employees lots of people still looking for an out, but are likely stuck because of the number of years they've already got in and the railroad retirement their hoping to get.

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Post ID: @1vkd+1f124pZU

I thought you were talking about the WhiteHouse for a minute!

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Post ID: @1mlu+1f124pZU

Can’t treat employees like abused animals and not expect the word to get out. I hope in the long run all the money they made is eaten up training new people who quit. And eventually raising wages to keep the ones they have. Karma!

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