Someone asked a very interesting question. I think many are wondering what the valuation of each separate “company” will end up being after the Big Split occurs? Any thoughts?
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Health care $5
No shade thrown, only truth being told. Not my fault or my problem if it’s ugly. What makes the IUE special or above the law? They are people like me and you and will be held to the same standards. We’ll see whose embarrassed when it’s the federal government laying out the result of their investigation. Media already has a close eye on 301 and knows something “funny” is happening.
Please learn how the sausage is made. To throw shade at the Int’l is totally unacceptable!. You embarrass yourself.
Nobody mentioned RM or any other specific individual. You obviously believe this is about RM since you mentioned him, which is interesting and says a lot. The “anti-RM crowd” is not investigating 301, the United States federal government is. The “anti-RM” crowd couldn’t stop the freight train heading his way even if we wanted to. But, we definitely don’t want to. In fact, we’ve helped it along, with inflation we’ve agreed to push the damn thing if need be. It will be great to finally see someone get what they deserve for once. I assume the advice you gave is exactly what you would do, “let it go.” So my question is, are you weak, a pushover, or scared? By your reasoning you think we should, let him (and/or others) get away with lying, stealing, cheating, and living off our dime just because he isn’t at 301 anymore. FCK THAT. The same people who faked an investigation, faked an audit, and then actually listed the misappropriation (but added that they found none) and failed to report it have him doing union work to this day. Healing will happen when every single lie that mo-o told is exposed (which can and will happen thanks to the investigation) and every single crime committed against the membership is out in the open. All involved will be held accountable. I wonder how the IUE will justify the “audit.” I know that “audit” was questionable (also laughable) when it was handed over and read by an agent who specializes in forensic auditing. And then knowing the IUE hired him, yet tried to hide the fact that they hired him, was shady to say the least. “Why” was a big question at that meeting. Also, again, we laughed. I mean, was it one person at the IUE, or multiple, that thought any of the above was a good idea? There are so many questions that thankfully, we’ll have answers to sooner rather than later. Finally. If RM and others is as clean as they claim they would welcome the investigation as well as the outcome. Right?
no more than $1
@2rkk+1gFf, I agree! Why does the anti-RM crowd hate him so much. If he's gone let it be and get back to healing
Don’t care if wrong doers go to jail, as long as all of the agreements stand.
Your thinking is so simple. Frankly, it’s strange that you believe the federal government would spend 3 years collecting evidence and conducting interviews for minor criminal activity. Crazy, actually. FYI…federal investigators do not meet with anyone unless that person can prove ahead of time that they have compelling evidence of crimes being committed. The fact that the investigation is not at a civil level but instead upgraded to a criminal level tells you that it’s not minor. Why are you in denial? It’s big and it’s complicated, much too complicated for you to comprehend (obviously). I mean, even after 3 years, you’re still insisting that it’s not a big deal and that there MIGHT be minor findings…come on. You’re being willfully ignorant at this point. Anyone that has been investigated by the federal government will tell you that “targets” are never told they’re being investigated. The investigators don’t want them to know and do what they can to prevent them from knowing. There’s a reason that it’s not illegal for federal investigators to lie or mislead people! Targets aren’t supposed to know they’re being investigated until the case is made and airtight. The investigators want the targets to keep their guard down. Clearly, the federal investigators aced this, the arrogance is still at an all time high. Not one ounce of concern. It’s only making what I know sweeter, I can’t wait until the government is finally ready to show their hand. There is no question that there will be lots of shock and most definitely some tears. I will admit, if people were as concerned as they should be the ending wouldn’t be as sweet. For you to think 3 years has only been about company paid union time or the CA is just ridiculous. Think tax evasion, embezzlement, sleeping with HR (literally), fraud, dr-gs, prostitutes, private personal deals between union and company, ALOT of money stolen for personal purchases, and I’m sure a plethora of other charges. The Feds don’t accept “I lost receipts but I promise it was legit.” They get the truth, they get video surveillance, they get atm camera shots, they get toll pictures, they can access personal phones, email, etc. without anyone knowing. They will have the undeniable truth, that’s what the past 3 years has been about. The lies told that are believed by some (but are laughable to anyone with a brain) will not work. There are people in the union and people with the company that should absolutely be concerned but I know they’re not. Screenshot this and save it, nobody can say they weren’t warned. They were warned before it got this far. They chose not to listen to any of us. They’ll have no choice but to listen AND face consequences now. We went into it knowing only a very small percentage of what was going on, thanks to the capabilities of real investigators, we will all know how deep and disgusting the people we were supposed to trust really are.
If there are no material findings I hope those stirring up will apologize and quit and realize how the company/union sausage us made everywhere. I support jail time if there is a smoking g-n quid pro quo activity that took place. If it’s this this BS about certain union officials getting too much company paid time for union business, that case in weak. Enjoy the CA, a-s time needed to end!
What back door deal? The two/tier and CA are excellent deals, so can’t be talking about them, which ones? Have some courage for once and at what you think.
That’s life! Life is not a bowl of rainbows and butterfly’s like GE and the Union sell it like it’s a great job. Keep drinking it up the layoffs will be big
The FOLKS who were “misappropriating” our money and cutting back door deals with the company are to blame for all of the bu-----t. PERIOD. I’m waiting for names to be official. Mad is what I am. Old men and pretty boys won’t want to know me when details are confirmed.
That wasn’t JC. Any “award” he’s given will be because he proved his case. When he proves his case he will win. Actually, when the criminal investigation findings are revealed he will win because that’s all he needs to prove his case. Being granted compensation for damages done to you by your “brothers” is compensation that is well deserved. He is fighting against the same corruption that has damaged many of us in Schenectady. Again, the only ones mad are the ones who will no longer be able to benefit from the it. JC already won, 3 years into what was supposed to be a simple audit but is now a criminal and you fools call it a conspiracy like it’s not real. It is. The federal government absolutely found that crimes were being committed in order to turn an audit
into a criminal investigation. Arrogance mixed with ignorance is what makes for very stupid criminals. Too arrogant to think you’d ever get caught and too ignorant to know that a federal audit turning criminal is serious sh-t. I’ll stay humble, you stay mad.
@1kak+1gFfMofl, he's suing the Local too! Any award (assuming there will be one...lol) in that context would be coming from the union's coffers (translation for you being slow on the uptake, that equals your unions dues). Wake up
@1kak+1gFfMofl, thanks for your post JC!
JC is why the members are no longer being robbed. Only the crooks and whoever was benefitting from it are mad at JC. We are waiting patiently for the details to come out with the end of the investigation. JC deserves a big cut and then some for what he was put through and we hope he gets it.
zaq+1gFfMofl- this post hit a home run on this thread. So basically there is no more GE Umbrella for failing cash cow sectors to hide their books under. So long long GE Power so long Schenectady the electric city is dried up.
Frankly, I don’t think the company will make it that far. Soon the stock will only be sold in penny stock boiler rooms, the Supply Chain will dry up, inflation will eat up profits, positive cash flow will be non-existent, management will run to the exits, and LC will take his golden parachute. We will only be left with the memories of buzz words, false hopes, politically correct values, and failed concepts of lean, six sigma, kaizen, teaming, etc. It’s been real and it’s been fun. But it hasn’t been real fun.