Thread regarding Union Pacific Corp. layoffs

Most of mgmt have never been railroaders

How do you expect management, most of whom have never been railroaders to run this company well? Some say that a good manager does not have to have a strong technical background. I disagree. Everything would be much better if we had good managers with a strong technical background.

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They don’t want railroaders as managers, they want yesmen, sycophants who won’t question their id--tic decisions and just do what they say. I have never seen a group of people with a lower collective IQ then railroad operations managers. We had two directors who were functionally illiterate and many others who didn’t have a firm grasp on the English language

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Post ID: @6sfd+1gGRgxLr

Bakersfield has a lot of yes men and kiss buttts

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Post ID: @5nqy+1gGRgxLr

We do have some good managers, They just get drowned out by the bad ones

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Post ID: @3lto+1gGRgxLr

I’ve been here 25 yrs. Never have I seen a bigger freaking mess. It’s safe to say most of management couldn’t manage a roadside taco stand

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Post ID: @1xwa+1gGRgxLr

According to the UP, knowledge of railroading from a textbook is all that's required to run a railroad. Just ask any manager.

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Post ID: @1nej+1gGRgxLr

seen too many changes, your post reminds me of a problem w/ UP leadership today. Great leaders in history (industry & military) used to be able to spot talent in others. The really good ones could not only spot it but were able to also build up and strengthen those talents. Being a yes man or a kiss @ss isnt a talent. No matter how good someone gets at doing it.

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Post ID: @1lba+1gGRgxLr

My manager knows all about railroading. He’s had a train of hot dogs ran on him multiple times.

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Post ID: @dpp+1gGRgxLr

I knew a former conductor with a degree in logistics and strategic planning .He organized supply and logistic in the Army. Guy applied to various jobs in Omaha to use his skills and degrees , he could not even get a interview, never did get past the first step to apply for jobs there. He got so frustrated with Up that he quit an moved to Alaska to be hunting guide. A true story.

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Post ID: @mit+1gGRgxLr

But who is gonna tell the pretentious lil soft handed college grad “you dont know what you’re talking about” ? You see the pseudo intellectual is gonna kick and scream like a burning demon anytime their false sense of superiority feels threatened. Thats why they focus on pronouns, finger painting rainbows, and inventing other ways of looking down their noses at those who get dirty. If they for one second had to consider the real truth and had the realization that they are not better than you, they’ll become sui-idal.

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Post ID: @dwy+1gGRgxLr

UP and most railroads used to promote MYO’s and MOP’s from conductor and engineer positions. This worked pretty well as most of them did not have college degrees and most weren’t looking for promotions. The railroads have now went to a model that most corporations use requiring a degree for an entry level manager position. I agree having field experience is invaluable, but the companies want to hire managers that they can groom for higher promotions instead of hiring managers that will be limited due to not having a degree. Whether you agree with this philosophy or not, this is how most companies operate. The days of a brakeman without a degree, like Di-k Davidson becoming CEO are long gone.

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