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Just how much cr-p are you willing to take from your manager?

I handed in my notice yesterday morning. Just couldn’t take the cr-p and the abuse from my manager.
Over the years I had a bit of good luck in the sense that I had good managers that understood how work was done and that I could turn to them. Last year my luck changed for the world as I got a new manager who just overloaded me with work, while disregarding anything that I had to say. I guess I drew the line after a year of doing someone else's work while the favorites did nothing. I was just curious for some honest answers, where do other people draw the line? How much cr-p are you willing to take before you say enough?

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Post ID: @OP+1gHanVaD

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deflecting shows not taking responsibility for the obvious. too many people have been hurt. people are not commodities. commodities are bought & sold. slavery mentality, abuse, & fraud are dangerous. being responsible, standing up for what is right comes with a price. neglecting any of this would be allowing it to continue and it has to stop.

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Post ID: @9unt+1gHanVaD

A sociopath often labels others as sociopaths. They take the things that they are doing and have done and try to say that others are doing those same things.

Classic behavior.

deflecting is not going to help. facts remain. not easy to stand-up for what is right but, necessary. people have hurt. fraud and abuse will not prevail but, justice will.

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Post ID: @9zek+1gHanVaD

The smoke screen of deflecting is easy to see through. The harm done has to dealt with. It is not going away.
Thank goodness someone has the guts to standup for what is right. I agree it’s never easy but it is responsible.

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Post ID: @9hlx+1gHanVaD
a sociopath would think people are commodities. the person referencing employees are commodities is easy to identify. he is in over his head with the fraudulent patents.

A sociopath often labels others as sociopaths. They take the things that they are doing and have done and try to say that others are doing those same things.

Classic behavior.

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Post ID: @8lke+1gHanVaD

a sociopath would think people are commodities. the person referencing employees are commodities is easy to identify. he is in over his head with the fraudulent patents.

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Post ID: @7qmv+1gHanVaD

Sounds like Oracle has no regard for people. I think I will read through, The Oracle Code of Ethics and Business Conduct which is required by the SEC, published and online, to see if, what you are saying is fitting with the SEC's requirements. Maybe I will be able to see "there is always a bright side if you look hard enough"

I have a question. When was it established that tech employees are a commodity, as you mention in your second sentence?

Just so you know, Publicly traded companies are held to a different standard as are, the officers... ...uh oh, I already see a problem, you have to comply with the law. I need to keep looking hard enough....not seeing a bright side, yet.

As you stated:
Try to look at the bright side. It is established that tech employees are a commodity. They are no longer valued. They have lost so much ground that they are now just a notch above blue collar workers. So the benefit of being a tech worker at Oracle is you learn your place and you learn accept being the subordinate that you actually are. That's the reality. This teaches Oracle employees some valuable long-term lessons, i.e., don't make waves and keep your head down in order to protect what little progress you have actually made.

There's always a bright side if you look hard enough.

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Post ID: @5qua+1gHanVaD
I lasted for about 6 months and couldn't handle the bullying and abusive nature from a particular technical director. I brought this up to senior management who protected him and blamed me. From the first week I was treated like a piece of garbage for no reason. I thought it was a joke and asked my co-workers what was going on. It was apparent that management at Oracle protects their own.

They bring in new people to do work behind-the-scenes that someone else can take credit for. They do not intend to keep you long. They treat you like dirt from the beginning so you don't stay long. They take whatever you do, use it to promote themselves, then dispose of you. Then they bring in the next guy and do the same thing to them. That way the people/rats in control, stay in control. Always taking the credit and applying the blame on the new guy, who is really the one doing all the work.

This is how the rats maintain control. The management above either doesn't care or is too clueless to do anything about it.

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Post ID: @5foz+1gHanVaD

I lasted for about 6 months and couldn't handle the bullying and abusive nature from a particular technical director. I brought this up to senior management who protected him and blamed me. From the first week I was treated like a piece of garbage for no reason. I thought it was a joke and asked my co-workers what was going on. It was apparent that management at Oracle protects their own.

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Post ID: @4mhz+1gHanVaD
Once my manager changed from the size-8 to the newer size-10 for my "1-on-1" meetings/sessions I realized I'm now stretched to my limit.

Word on the street is you should try not to clench up.

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Post ID: @1vhl+1gHanVaD

Once my manager changed from the size-8 to the newer size-10 for my "1-on-1" meetings/sessions I realized I'm now stretched to my limit. He told me I should stop being so uptight and try to relax more, and that I should "count my blessings". I never liked 1-on-1s much in the first place, but now I really dread it whenever I'm called into his office for one.

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Post ID: @qen+1gHanVaD

This is horrible. No company should be managed like this. Corrupt to the bone, from top to bottom. It makes sense that there is no remorse. These people are immoral and it has to be stopped, legally. Hope every single violator gets what they deserve.

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Post ID: @nes+1gHanVaD
@owv+1gHanVaD

You couldn't put your commas in the right place if your life depended on it. This guy, who is one of the managers who plays games with his own suckups and nearly worked me to death, is on here pretending to be the nice guy. He is the one pointing to the VPs and claiming he was just doing what they told him. Total cr-p. He is as dishonest as the day is long. Don't listen to the atlanta vp/investor/get-the-vp guy. He is the one who is responsible for all that has happened to those working for him. He's just trying to wiggle out of that by blaming the management above him.

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Post ID: @pvo+1gHanVaD
I guess I drew the line after a year of doing someone else's work while the favorites did nothing.

This is the key. This is going on all over dev. Managers get their suckups around them; they are promised they don't have to do any real work. Then the manager makes someone else do extra work and gives the credit to the suckups. It is everywhere.

Get out of Oracle! The management is one big scam machine.

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Post ID: @hsd+1gHanVaD

You did the right thing. There are too many good jobs out there that, encourage and respect employees. Employees are only as good as their manager. If the employees are not happy it's the managers, fault. If the manager is not happy then, it's the fault of the person he answers, too, It's really simple. People need to appreciated.
You mention that you had good managers in the past and when you got this new manager that would not listen, his disrespect ki---d your desire to work at Oracle.
No one should be treated, badly unless they treat people, badly and if they take advantage of others then, it will come back to them. Oracle has such a negative approach and needs to be turned around or else it will continue to spilral downward. People that are self indulgent are never happy. Greed is a ki---r.
It is not easy to standup for what is right and good and when we do and it doesn't work then, we have to move on. I wish you all the best, I have a good feeling that, you will get to a better place because you are a good person.

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Post ID: @owv+1gHanVaD

I only hope you spelled out your reasons for leaving... to someone other than this person. Else they will continue to make other lives miserable as well. That's how the horrible managers stay in position for so long.

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