Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Not a good workplace for new employees

Oracle has turned into an incredibly slow-moving company with no room left to innovate or be creative. Additionally, there is no room for career growth as nobody is interested in building your skills if you're one of the newer hires. This is no longer a place to build your career, that's for sure.

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Tech workers became commodities when they squandered their chance to organize or form guilds to preserve and codify their vital place in every single solitary aspect of the modern world.

It was the 90’s, life and work was changing at a pace not seen in decades. If you weren’t on the Internet (or AOL as some thought it was), you were heading to Computer City or Fretters to buy a pc, modem, printer, etc.

Tech workers wrote their own ticket. Change jobs and get a 50% raise. Boot camp for Microsoft or Novell…you’re an “engineer”. For reference, Amazon was a money losing online bookstore and no one knew who the heck Elon Musk was. Apple was in trouble, and the “I” app revolution was years away.

Well, they blew it. Tech thought that the sunshine would never end, the employers that loved them would never stop showering them with $, stock ops, foosball, luv…

Tech workers forgot about Capitalism. Lots of us saw it coming. In the ruins of the 2000s, tech was humbled and bruised. Put in its place. Watched outsourcing to IN and other places become the defacto policy. Commoditized.

Now that pattern seems to be coming around again. High demand. Huge salaries. The stakes for the world is even higher than it was 20 years ago.

Be vigilant and pay attention

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Post ID: @jdns+1gKFbNdK

Jesus. It’s easy to see how many rat managers are on here. Stayed at oracle for 15 years in one of the GBU’s. Worst decision I ever made was to take a job with an acquisition. I’ve never witnessed so many grown adults be so useless. I wish I got into a trade. My managers had no pride and didn’t work hard. Losers.

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Post ID: @jsyu+1gKFbNdK

“ I have been with oracle now for just at one year and have been blessed to work for two great managers, my direct and our VP. Its been a fun ride! MD May 2022”

Isn’t it wonderful that you could get your first job working along side your Dad in HR!

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Post ID: @4alm+1gKFbNdK

I have been with oracle now for just at one year and have been blessed to work for two great managers, my direct and our VP. Its been a fun ride! MD May 2022

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Post ID: @4kur+1gKFbNdK

"I have a question. When was it established that tech employees are a commodity, as you mention in your second sentence?"

Seems to me like there is some agreement about the commodity thing in this thread alone.

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Post ID: @3tkg+1gKFbNdK

You have no regard for people. I think I will read through, The Oracle Code of Ethics and Business Conduct which is required by the SEC, published and online, to see if, what you are saying is fitting with the SEC's requirements. Maybe I will be able to see "there is always a bright side if you look hard enough"

I have a question. When was it established that tech employees are a commodity, as you mention in your second sentence?

Just so you know, Publicly traded companies are held to a different standard as are, the officers... ...uh oh, I already see a problem, you have to comply with the law. I need to keep looking hard enough....not seeing a bright side, yet.

As you stated:
Try to look at the bright side. It is established that tech employees are a commodity. They are no longer valued. They have lost so much ground that they are now just a notch above blue collar workers. So the benefit of being a tech worker at Oracle is you learn your place and you learn accept being the subordinate that you actually are. That's the reality. This teaches Oracle employees some valuable long-term lessons, i.e., don't make waves and keep your head down in order to protect what little progress you have actually made.

There's always a bright side if you look hard enough.

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Post ID: @2hlo+1gKFbNdK
Tech workers are BELOW Blue collar workers at this juncture. You can't outsource the guy who fixes your water leak or your breaker box off shore. I suppose you COULD outsource the guy who does your taxes, but WOULD YOU?

There are tech workers and then there are Oracle tech workers, the latter being the very bottom rung since their skills are such that they are low performing and not marketable anywhere else.

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Post ID: @2rxm+1gKFbNdK
Try to look at the bright side. It is established that tech employees are a commodity.
They are no longer valued. They have lost so much ground that they are now just a
notch above blue collar workers.

Tech workers are BELOW Blue collar workers at this juncture. You can't outsource the guy who fixes your water leak or your breaker box off shore. I suppose you COULD outsource the guy who does your taxes, but WOULD YOU?

Getting into a trade is not the worst thing in the world. You enter the professional world without a mountain of overpriced college debt and you can make one fine living.

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Post ID: @2oqg+1gKFbNdK
You might find yourself in a place one day where maybe you will find that every job is important & every person is valuable.

What fantasy land are you living in? What you suggest sounds like the post WW2 US economy, but those times are long gone. Today's late-stage capitalism/oligarchy views fry-cooks and tech workers as the same, resources to be exploited and then disposed of. The truth is harsh, but that's the devolution we are stuck with now.

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Post ID: @1gvm+1gKFbNdK
I tell my son not to go into this industry. Be a plumber, or an electrician. Learn a trade.
Anything then technology. That ship has sailed!

It has. When I first started nearly 40 years ago, Tech workers were celebrated and valued and we were paid like it. Now, tech workers are fungible commodities. I'd tell anyone asking to become an electrician, accountant, anything that people will always need.

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Post ID: @1ywe+1gKFbNdK

I’m old enough to know of grandkids of tech professionals that didn’t listen to that advice.

The pull of doing what your Dad or Mom does is very strong.

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Post ID: @1bfg+1gKFbNdK

I tell my son not to go into this industry. Be a plumber, or an electrician. Learn a trade. Anything then technology. That ship has sailed!

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Post ID: @1vzq+1gKFbNdK

That’s sick, shear arrogance, Do you really think your message is the bright side? You might find yourself in a place one day where maybe you will find that every job is important & every person is valuable. You can be, too should you get the help you need.

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Post ID: @foc+1gKFbNdK

Try to look at the bright side. It is established that tech employees are a commodity. They are no longer valued. They have lost so much ground that they are now just a notch above blue collar workers. So the benefit of being a tech worker at Oracle is you learn your place and you learn accept being the subordinate that you actually are. That's the reality. This teaches Oracle employees some valuable long-term lessons, i.e., don't make waves and keep your head down in order to protect what little progress you have actually made.

There's always a bright side if you look hard enough.

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