Thread regarding Norfolk Southern Corp. layoffs

Retaining good employees

They think only short term and therefore do not try to retain good, quality employees. Instead they are more focused on hiring new people. Yes, I think the reason for that is precisely that none of them at the top think long term.
However, it questionable whether they would able to keep the best employees even if they tried?

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What would be better is if we could figure out a way to put pressure on the unions to either represent us properly or be replaced by a union like the old teamsters. Now that might bring some results. Our current leadership is fat and happy and feels untouchable!!

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Post ID: @eoag+1gP2Lk6Z

Same thing going on at UPrr. People quit often. They don’t retain many for 30 years

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Post ID: @ctnv+1gP2Lk6Z

As much as I despise the money they take with hardly any service rendered, they are a necessary evil if you want a job at the
Rail road. It’s almost as if we don’t have a contract by they way they ignore it. But imagine if we didn’t have it… A company this big and greedy needs something between them and their employees. Even if it is nearly worthless.

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Post ID: @8jng+1gP2Lk6Z

Apparently, you still live in 1978 and this norfolk southern , you get rid of the union here and everyone that looks cross-eyed at any boss will be fired and yes even you the suck a-s will be terminated.

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Post ID: @7waw+1gP2Lk6Z

"Average pay" in this context means that you take what a bad employee would make and what a good employee would make and add them up and divide by 2 for an average. The contracts don't allow for merit or performance based wages, thus the contracted rate of pay is what the average person would otherwise make. Its not a perfect system, but most employers have something similar in place, its just not legally binding in a contract. As railroaders we are better off with our unions, but our unions are crippled by the Rail Labor Act of 1926, so our dues should be about $25/month.

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Post ID: @7bul+1gP2Lk6Z

WTF? To the ja----s who thinks the union negotiates "average" pay, you better look around, id--t...railroaders can hold their own. Lots and lots and lots of college of college educated folks make way less pay, trust me. Go slurp on some more company d***....

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Post ID: @7pen+1gP2Lk6Z

The union is what tolerates and helps bad employees- The union negotiates average pay- meaning your a hard worker, well your pay is being drawn down to justify keeping bad employees that the union protects- This leave the railroad no chose but to treat everyone like cr-p- And start fresh with lesser pay employees - Who negotiated the pay scale reduction- the union.
I worked for the Delaware and Hudson back in the late1970's and my pay started at the scale- which in 1978 was 10.76 an hour for a yard clerk- and I made 15.76 as a crew dispatcher- o graduated rates- Dump the union and good employees will be awarded in pay and good relationships-

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Post ID: @6eza+1gP2Lk6Z

They don't want to retain you, or any other employees. This is because the shareholders and corporate puppets of said shareholders think you bring absolutely no value. They believe you can be replaced with new employees, who are "students" at 75% of your pay. In addition they get money back from the government for what they pay these students because they are providing " training" to them. They believe the skills you have are easily acquired, and anyone can be trained to do. They believe this because most of these people have never done this kind of work. They think since it involves physical labor that there's no real talent involved. They of course, are dead wrong, but unfortunately will not figure this out till they completely run things into the ground and bring this country to it's knees. How ironic to be so intelligent, and so completely uninformed at the same time!

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Post ID: @2gus+1gP2Lk6Z

The beatings will continue until the moral improves. No exceptions to this internal policy!

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Post ID: @2xiq+1gP2Lk6Z

Younger generations are happy to work crazy schedules in all weather as long as the pay is sufficient. A nice retail job in an air conditioned store is a good life even at half the pay. The railroads should be at about $45/hr to stay competitive.

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Post ID: @1oct+1gP2Lk6Z

Unless something fundamental changes then they will struggle to retain employees. Younger generations aren't willing to put up with the schedule and the management policies straight out of the 1800's. This isn't to talk bad about them either. We shouldn't accept it either. Lots of places have 24/7 operations without ki----g people with the schedule and the younger ones see that. Most other jobs appreciate good workers and don't set out to discipline them just to establish control over them. Until we get some management that's willing to make changes and union leadership that will hold them to it look for new people to continue to bail.

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