Is it possible to move into WF CyberSecurity group? Let's say if I am in operatoins, fields ops, watever, and I take some courses in Cyber Security and I do good. Would it be possible to transfer? Any suggestions about this? I am not even sure if this is a possiblity.
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Hi All - I am the OP. I'd like to thank all of you for taking time and responding. This thread is very useful – some posts are inspiring.
I've noticed that we use layoff.com for much more than just layoff talk and I was sure I'll get some good responses from my WF colleagues. Sorry if this is against the etiquette, I’ve been on this site for over two months now and I’ve noticed that many topics are outside the layoff realm.
@1ruh+1gVfQZk6 “certs are useless” - yes and no. Do they always indicate competency? No.
However, without them you’ll find yourself immediately cast off from applications when the job requires them. Better to have the letters so you don’t get overlooked because you didn’t tick a box on the job listing.
Before I got into Info Sec, I had two decades of financial coding, database administration and OS administration. I also got my CISSP which was not easy. Wells Fargo doesn't care much about knowledge and experience though and they will likely off shore my job to someone with fake experience and credentials.
From WF CyberSec here.
Learn to code
Don't bu-----t about what you know be honest
Show drive in wanting to learn
Certs are useless.
Apply for jobs, talk to us we are people and will help you :-)
To those folks thinking that our job is just clicking a button that says scan, you are so misinformed.
Yes, it's possible. No, it's not recommended unless you enjoy the good ole boys club and a bunch of big egos.
Don't let these guys talk you down. Many security jobs are just using automated tools to scan code or do penetration tests then create reports and verify fixes. Sure, a degree in computer science would help, but it's not exactly rocket science.
@1wzn+1gVfQZk6 The post doth protest too much! If you weren’t being elitist, no need to apologize, eh?
Posts telling people they need passion and not courses are some of the d-mbest, elitist sh-t cyber is known for. Y’all bi--h about being overworked then gatekeep so people with a budding interest are discouraged to look further into developing skills. Then cry there’s no “talent”.
I’ve been in InfoSec/Cyber for 20+ years, never had a problem finding the talent because I’m happy to help people with an interest and basic skills develop it.
Elitist posts? Some here have given you good advise. I am sure you can confirm this by doing some research instead of coming to a layoff site.
Agree, this thread should get dumped.
OP don’t let these elitist posts scare you off. If you have field ops experience I’m going to guess you’re referring to desktop support type role now. If that’s correct think about looking into forensics, a lot of desktop support skills will transfer easily. Participating in investigations will also give you exposure to how bad actors behave and potentially exploit vulnerabilities.
Good luck - and don’t let the gatekeepers discourage you from trying something new!
Have you previously worked at JP and do you know Chuckles?
#admin please remove this useless thread.
This is a layoff site PEOPLE!!!
So, you mean if you can apply for a job? Nobody just gets transferred here.
You'll prob need to get a new job at a new company in the field of security, dev ops or programming. Good luck.
Security is something you need a passion for vs just taking some classes.
The best route is move to Hyderabad and manufacture some fake diplomas and certs. That works for a certain group.
Cybersecurity is not a field you just take a few courses and move into. You need applied experience and a sustained passion for the field and technology in general.
We are in a transitory stage in tech. If you study cloud security and get some certs it may make it easier.
Maybe you can find a church or charity to volunteer at to get some experience on paper.
Cyber security at WF used to be under Risk. It got moved under IT which views protecting customer and team member personal information as an expensive road block to IT goals. So now, like the rest of the company, there's a push to have off shore perform cyber security roles as much as possible.
Sure, it would be better if you had teller experience though
Depends on your background and what area you want to move into. It is a very broad field.
There are a lot of job roles in ICS that aren't directly technology related, but are important as they interact with the businesses or help manage the loads of processes.
With a lot of technical security jobs people come from backgrounds in programming, network, server administration, etc first.