It seems that the optimal number of days in the office is four days and not three. Better get geared up for an extra day in the office.
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@1upt+1gtIuRWo I will put it nicer and maybe the post will not be deleted. If you work for Oxy you maybe need to leave so you can work somewhere that aligns with your values. Oxy is sinking millions into the low carbon endeavor and trying to be more friendly to the environment and the people that are more concerned than others. Sure, Oxy and other oil companies have made huge profits recently, but balance that out over years. Just two years ago Oxy was losing quarter over quarter and headed for dire straits. You did not hear anyone in congress saying poor Oxy and oil companies why don't we help them not go bankrupt. Many people only remember the good times. Oxy and other companies are in the business to make money, if not then those companies need to close their doors. Their sole purpose is not to keep people employed. With anything there are downsides and that can be said about any industry. Again, if who you work for does not fit your values then move on.
How about taxing all others more like the medical industry, Home Depot , big tech, insurance, and on and on. Oil companies are not the only ones getting rich. You think Facebook deserves billions for providing nothing tangible. There is a whole list you tax wh--es can go after.
Oil and gas should be taxed more and the proceeds given to the poor. The real poor, not the affluent people who got the stimulus payments. That way you beef up the poor and you effectively cut down on use of fossil fuels. Heavy taxes in my mind is 2-3 bucks a gallon all going to the feds. The focus is on cutting down on causes of climate change and helping the unfortunate low income members of our society. If you think this is unfair to you then think about how much money you really need after you die. Things get real cheap after death no matter what you believe.
@1nvy+1gtIuRWo - Read the last paragraph and see if you feel he is 100% behind it. That last paragraph kind of tells me he thinks people are a little weak.
While Munger argued that completing business activities remotely has made certain components of work “simpler, cheaper, and more efficient,” he argued, on the other hand, that federal stimulus for workers sidelined during the pandemic has been too liberal.
“What makes capitalism work is the fact that if you’re an able-bodied young person, if you refuse to work, you suffer a fair amount of agony, and because of that agony, the whole economic system works,” he said, adding effective, prospering economies have traditionally imposed hardship on young people who don’t want to work.
“You take away that hardship and say ‘you can stay home and get more than if you come in to work,’ that’s quite disruptive to an economic system like ours,” Munger added. “The next time we do this, I don’t think we ought to be so liberal.”
Yea too bad warren buffets right hand man Charlie munger said the 5 day work week in the office is dead post pandemic. Nice try though. Think before you speak. Article below for reference.
Wait until Warren Buffet buys the whole company and takes us private. We might be back in the office 5 days a week.
I think oil and gas has to be competitive against other industries and wfh is a way they can do it.
So there are a lot of people and politicians that want to transition away from fossil fuels, I am not aware of the evidence to suggest that the production and use of fossil fuels is actually going down ( Covid related being the exception). Maybe that happens in the future, maybe not. Cheaper, renewable energy would be great, but at this point it is simply something to be wished for. Suggesting that something should happen and that it is happening are not the same thing. Of course, any government could simply take action to make fossil fuels more expensive in an attempt to get rid of them, but that would probably be the end of that government, at least in a democratic nation. No government would ever be that stupid, would they??
If you have ever been in a hiring position, you would know that there are always several qualified candidates for every job opening. I’ve dealt with that many times. I have never had a position that there weren’t many candidates ready to take the job. What you’re saying just doesn’t match with reality.
Because less and less college students are going into oil and gas out of college due to climate change and the transition away from fossil fuels. This means there is natural attrition so existing employees with a skill set will become even more valuable for the next 20-30 years.
With climate change cutting into demand for oil and gas they don’t need as many employees after prices settle down. So why does the company need to give in to employees desires?
I would take a pay cut for full time wfh. But it’s not justifiable because the company does get much better performance from me when I’m full time wfh.
Add in climate change and oil and gas needs to be doing everything in their power to keep workers happy
The tech companies can’t and won’t hire everyone from the oil companies. Even if they try, the oil companies pay so much better than practically all other industries that they won’t have a problem replacing you with someone who appreciates all the benefits that the oils offer.
Oil companies like Oxy don’t really have much of a choice but to continue to be flexible in their working arrangements. Here is why, other industries (like tech) now pay better than oil and gas and allow full time work from home options. If you add in the volatility and layoff liklihood in oil and gas, there has to be a compelling reason to attract workers. The pay alone is only slightly above average for most people who aren’t managers and many disciplines like supply chain, finance, accounting and IT all pay better in other industries without the volatility of oil and gas.
Not true at all. People are already quitting in my group or just not coming into the office even Tuesday through Thursday.
No one’s quitting based on having to be in the office. Ain’t gonna happen.
Why do people care if someone works from home or in the office if they get their work done? Sounds like some people are just bitter and need to get a life. I really don’t see the number of days changing though, things will never go back to how they were pre pandemic. BP, Apache, Marathon and Chevron all do hybrid now just like Oxy. It’s the best of both worlds for employees and the company.
Or people can continue to work from home 1-2 days a week like we have now since we are paid for performance and not keep our butts in a seat for 10 hours a day:
There is a simple solution. Those that want to work from home all week let them. With that comes a 30% pay cut. I know people who would do it in a second. Those that want to come in 2-3 days a 20% pay cut, and those that want to come in all the time no pay cut. I will guarantee you would have employees in all groups and the company would get the same output as before or more. Those with kids would easily save the 30% on daycare, and they would be around for their kids which is a win for all society. The young ones that want to be in the tech world would still be getting paid good at a 30% cut. Just think we all made it during the bad times of the pandemic. Everyone would need to give a little for it to work. Managers and higher would come in all week as well.
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Yea never gonna happen. I’m in supply chain and half my group is looking to leave to more wfh friendly companies/industries as is. The BWP was done in response to overwhelming preference to work from home when the execs gave out their survey to employees.
Troll post- any post I disagree with. Ban them.
25% of corporate jobs are already fully remote. It would be an exodus like oil and gas has never seen if they tried to change the number of days people are required to drive in. Troll post.
No, they’re not going to quit and neither are you.
Honestly I think optimal days in the office is 2 - 3 days a week, mostly 2 days
Yea not a chance dude. Half my floor is still working from home in land. If the BWP was changed most in my department would look elsewhere
Yea no thanks the average employee would quit as more industries just become more fully remote. 3 days hybrid isn’t going anywhere troll.