Thread regarding Occidental Petroleum Corp. layoffs

There's an easy solution to RTO issues

There is a simple solution. Those that want to work from home all week let them. With that comes a 30% pay cut. I know people who would do it in a second. Those that want to come in 2-3 days a 20% pay cut, and those that want to come in all the time no pay cut. I will guarantee you would have employees in all groups and the company would get the same output as before or more. Those with kids would easily save the 30% on daycare, and they would be around for their kids which is a win for all society. The young ones that want to be in the tech world would still be getting paid good at a 30% cut. Just think we all made it during the bad times of the pandemic. Everyone would need to give a little for it to work. Managers and higher would come in all week as well.

I think @ugh+1gtIuRWo is onto something.

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Post ID: @OP+1gvMXfep

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You are so young and misunderstood. Grow up.

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Post ID: @7boj+1gvMXfep

Oh I and many others are capable of exceptionally zeroing in to a pinpoint focus while distractions around us are occurring. However why does my employer prefer to have us exert ourselves to accomplish that rather than the way we have been working for the past two years from home which requires the least amount of exertion for highly focused head down work? Could it be because you then will have no ability to create false arbitrary reasons to dock percentage points come bonuses and end of year reviews? Oh and don't feel sorry for me about this because others are also being tormented. Could it be because this tactic works so well for the employer?

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Post ID: @7vxs+1gvMXfep

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/charlie-munger-we-are-never-going-back-to-a-five-day-work-week-in-the-office-212348086.html?guccounter=1

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Post ID: @7jhd+1gvMXfep

@6zfu+1gvMXfep

You obviously want to be interactive and productive but don’t know how to shut off distractions. I feel sorry for you. Good luck with your career.

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Post ID: @6qkt+1gvMXfep

Why do you hope others are doing the same?

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Post ID: @6amr+1gvMXfep

I’m looking for other jobs since they made us come back. I hope others are doing the same.

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Post ID: @6kcj+1gvMXfep

Wouldn't be fair for me and many others because I'm exceedingly more efficient and collaborative while working from home than in the office because it's exceptionally quiet at my home but annoyingly distractingly loud in the office from others around me talking and joking around with each other which negativitly causes wasted time in a day I need to do head down work. I could spend that time with others in my area doing the same by joining them and I do sometimes but we all have different deadlines so I would be hurting myself doing so everytime they distract me. It's also very taxing to ignore them and focus on work when I just cant join in on their fun or maybe their wotk related discussion doesn't need me to be involved but their meeting very loudly in the hallway right outside my office door. Being in the office three days a week is most certainly hurting productivity for what is being asked of me and many others to do. I think going in one day a week is the most needed to get face to face interaction some feel they want but only need a little of to do their job but for many working full time from home is truly the best and most effective and efficient use of our work and non work hours in a day.

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Post ID: @6zfu+1gvMXfep

I’m actually surprised that they are keeping the 9/80 with a hybrid work schedule. Many companies have taken it away. Oxy employees are very spoiled and have an ‘entitled’ mentality! Of course some of that stems from them being promoted way too quickly into Manager roles simply because they are suck ups. Many many people in HR have been promoted before they were ready to lead a team.

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Post ID: @5qcf+1gvMXfep

I am talking about commitment to technical and professional aspects of a job. Dude. You people are too concerned at a young age about making money for no sweat. You need to learn to walk before you run. That’s what I am talking about. Not the good ole boy network.

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Post ID: @1amm+1gvMXfep

Dude oil companies are not the same good ol’ boy companies that they were “back in the day”. The companies need to adapt or they will go out of business during the next bust.

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Post ID: @1cuj+1gvMXfep

If you think Airbnb, apple, salesforce, and Microsoft are examples of great companies you are in the wrong business. Back in my day when you worked for an oil company you had oil in your veins even if you were in IT.

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Post ID: @1cnm+1gvMXfep

Well then that sounds like a cultural problem for oxy. Many other amazing companies like Apple/Salesforce/Microsoft clearly don’t let political bs like you are describing prevent people from working remote. Maybe it’s why those companies are worth 5x what oxy is. They can hire from anywhere and let people’s work speak for itself not their water cooler talk with some useless and way overpaid VP.

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Post ID: @1uhn+1gvMXfep

Who do you think is going to get recognized and promoted, the employee who works from home or the employee who comes to the office and has face to face interactions with her boss and team? I know how you want recognition work, but how does it actually work? Of course the person who is known and who is present will get better ratings and have better chance at promotion, even if her performance is the same as the person working from home. It’s just reality no matter how much you think it’s wrong and don’t want it work this way.

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Post ID: @1huq+1gvMXfep

Dude things are never going back to how they were. The sooner boomers like you living in the past retire, the better. Most employees in my generation are pi---d we have to come back in the office at all, especially when you hear of more legit companies like Airbnb recently announcing a fully remote policy to their employees who are better paid and don’t have to live in terrible, crime ridden cities like Houston. Employees don’t need to be babysat to do their job by sitting in a office chair for 10 hours. We were hired to do a job, not warm seats in front of insecure middle management and overpaid VPs.

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Post ID: @1gue+1gvMXfep

It’s not changing? You obviously are too young to remember when the 9/80 schedule was taken away. At that time workers didn’t complain much because they realized who was boss and didn’t act like spoiled brats like they do now. We need to get back to the days where management is in control. A good period where oil prices tank and they start laying off 10 to 20 % of the workforce will humble you all.

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Post ID: @1vek+1gvMXfep

Not sure why this was even posted. The 3 days a week in the office and 2 says hybrid has already been decided on. It’s not changing.

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Post ID: @1qge+1gvMXfep

It won't work because people want it all. I would think hard about taking a pay cut to work from home. As I get older it fits just fine with what I want to do. In the past we could just go to part-time 30 hours and keep benefits at reduced pay for 30 hours. People staying home full-time at 30% cut have many ways they could save money to not make that sting so much. Below are a few, and maybe it is 20% instead of 30%, but a reduced amount.

  1. Move to a cheaper place to live. Maybe move closer to elderly parents needing help.
  2. If people have kids save on daycare.
  3. No cleaning costs.
  4. No lunch out costs.
  5. No fuel and auto maintenance costs.
  6. Piece of mind you can do more family time.
  7. Auto insurance will go down based on no commute.
  8. Many other benefits as well.
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