Thread regarding Amazon.com layoffs

What is it like to be PIPed?

I guess the feeling of being PIPed is awful, maybe even worse than being laid off, if only because of the uncertainty. It wouldn't surprise me if those who were put through PIP were put under so much more pressure and intentionally overwhelmed that they knew in advance they wouldn't survive it?

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PIP means you're being shown the door. Not necessarily due to incompetence, just that your all powerful manager no longer wants to work with you. Use this time to land a new gig...

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Post ID: @1ovtl+1hIQV9aD

I'm 6 months in and haven't even finished Embark and I just got PIP'd! This is the worst place I've ever worked. I have never had performance issues before coming here. I even got a promotion and relocated with another tech company and all my reviews were excellent at my last company. I feel like I'm being set up to fail, nit picked all over the place. I'm so nervous now that I can't think straight. This is AWS!

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Post ID: @Tzfq+1hIQV9aD

The process is political. When I was PIPd, I decided to leave. Both my new manager and skip manager had a meeting with me insisting that I stay, but I left anyway. My old manager had began the PIP process before leaving for a new team and my new manager just continued the process, probably to show he is 'raising the bar', which basically means how much you can bootlick (all LP's are expressions of how to best bootlick and sc--w people over). I was PIPd despite leading the development of two projects and had the most sprint points completed of the current project. This sounds unreasonable but what can you expect from my old manager, who literally did not show up for work, even for dialing into a meeting (this is pre-covid). I would have 1:1's perhaps once every two months.

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Post ID: @Fqsk+1hIQV9aD

Most people who have long and successful careers at Amazon are very good at at working within ambiguity. The challenge is we become so entrenched in Amazon that we are unable to see the lurking mechanisms that eventually have the potential to eat us up. There are so many variables at play up to and including luck that keep many of us insulated. I do believe at this point for me, I became numb to a lot of it.

I am not an Amazon hater. But I have been there long enough to see how the company operates. I am also not the same champion and cheerleader for Amazon I used to be where I called someone calling foul a whiner who just isn't made for this place.

Many of us personally loved it and touted the "peculiar" culture and repeated "Amazon is not for everyone."

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