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CWA D7 & Lumen early negotiations. Thoughts?

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Post ID: @OP+1hdDWSRl

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Management jobs are non union. To all who feel the union is so worthless just go to management. The first thing i always hear is “management has no protection “ the union has its problems for sure but without any union you are “at will” employee

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Post ID: @dozf+1hdDWSRl

“They recently sold 20 of those states and Latin Market = about 10 billion made from those sales.”

I want to preface with this…many years ago the union was a viable mechanism however, in todays world of no loyalty anywhere, you are just a number! Unions are easily manipulated nowadays and the premise they were built on have been forgotten over the years, not to mention the viable negotiating tools we once had control of and over! Businesses have spent their time wisely over the years and have slowly tied our hands at the negotiating table.

Let’s not forget about the $40 billion in debt we are saddled with! That is where any and all “profits” will be spent for the foreseeable future! Let’s remember, it’s the employees fault that we are in the position we are…that’s why we need the culture change, code of conduct and ethics training. Besides that, the BOD say as much when they approve the executive salary and bonuses they do and then turn around at the negotiating table and scare tactic the union into giving up more for future considerations which never come to fruition!! If you are in a right to work state, the best thing we can do for our family during these tumultuous times is at least stop paying dues for something you have no control over, even though some still believe they do!!!!!

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Post ID: @9rhh+1hdDWSRl

“We have also lost so many employees & management. Lesser mouths for the company to feed . They are definitely not broke and the Union better not cave in!”

The Union has enough diversification in their representation now. All they want from us is our continuous monthly handout to their coffers…they will not do anything to jeopardize that, to include signing a POS contract! Look at the last 2 and tell me where you think we benefited?!? Did you see who they sent to the negotiating table on the last one? Look at other industry contracts and you will start realizing we have have been forgotten about long ago…not just wages for what it’s worth!

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Post ID: @9oyz+1hdDWSRl

Let's be clear. The CWA contract is for the original core 14 states. Then CenturyLink went out and acquired other companies adding 22 more states. They recently sold 20 of those states and Latin Market = about 10 billion made from those sales. We are back to the core 14 states (again) but now the company has 10 billion in their bank account, and still giving a $.25 dividend to shareholders. We have also lost so many employees & management. Lesser mouths for the company to feed . They are definitely not broke and the Union better not cave in!

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Post ID: @5usr+1hdDWSRl

gotta lock that sh!te down before selling off another piece. or probably just cutting it loose with whatever change falls out of my pants on laundry day.

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Post ID: @3vpm+1hdDWSRl

“ June 13, 2022

CWA/CenturyLink/Lumen

This is to inform the members/bargaining unit that the Company and Union have agreed to extend the contract indefinitely with either party having the option to give fourteen (14) days’ notice to terminate the extension.”

In this instance, 14 days is better than 7 days :)))) How many management positions get a 14 day notice??

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Post ID: @2bdm+1hdDWSRl

June 13, 2022

CWA/CenturyLink/Lumen

This is to inform the members/bargaining unit that the Company and Union have agreed to extend the contract indefinitely with either party having the option to give fourteen (14) days’ notice to terminate the extension.

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Post ID: @1qnb+1hdDWSRl

I mean honestly what’s left? We are at the mercy of the company on the price of insurance. It not a bargained for issue any more. Only thing really left is pay, vacations, pension and keeping the contractors at bay. We need to all stick together and vote down any contracts that are lacking.

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Post ID: @1ubz+1hdDWSRl

My guess, since you asked: Typical song and dance where the company states they're too poor to continue paying benefits at current rates and can't afford cost of living and inflationary pay increases. Meanwhile executive pay increases exponentially and dividend payments continue to fly out the door.

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