Senator Ted Cruz wants more government funding to go to Starlink and Elon Musk. Senator Ted Cruz does not believe fiber optics is the way to go.
https://www.cablinginstall.com/cable/article/55246223/senator-ted-cruz-takes-aim-at-bead-program?o_eid=6434A3802612D4P&oly_enc_id=6434A3802612D4P&rdx.ident[pull]=omeda|6434A3802612D4P&utm_campaign=CPS241230125&utm_medium=email&utm_source=CIM+Fiber+Connection
BEAD is for underserved and unserved areas.
“https://www.ntia.gov/press-release/2024/biden-harris-administration-approves-georgia-iowa-minnesota-and-south-carolina-s-internet-all
Nope money started flowing at the end of September and fibers already going in the ground!”
Article says those states are allowed to request money. No money given yet, no jobs started yet. Did you read it?
You’re absolutely wrong, I know because I’ve seen it done! You say you’ve had fiber for 7 years in you big metro home, well I’ve had it for 20 years now, from a mom and pop company who can into town with loan with the credit union! So who the ***k are you to tell me that it can’t be done! :-) … have a great 2025,”
Aren’t you the guy who claimed to have Starlink til you didn’t need it because you got better service? Sooooo, 20 years ago before Starlink was invented you had it but then 20 years ago you switched to fiber. Huh.
“You’re absolutely wrong, I know because I’ve seen it done! You say you’ve had fiber for 7 years in you big metro home, well I’ve had it for 20 years now, from a mom and pop company who can into town with loan with the credit union! So who the ***k are you to tell me that it can’t be done! :-) … have a great 2025,”
I’m the guy saying you are misinformed. I’m also a guy that worked for google fiber, Amazon fiber and currently lumen doing fiber buildouts. Tell us the name of the mom and pop company that overbuilt in an incumbents territory 20 years ago. And, created and ran their own isp backbone for that fiber build out all on a loan from the credit union. I can without a doubt tell you fiber overlash costs about 8 dollars a foot right now. That’s for an incumbents overlash. Not an outside companies overbuild. If your little mom and pop drove down the street and “overlashed” on an incumbents strand that fiber would be on the side of the road in 1000 pieces the next day. I’m serious, you have ZERO idea about how much it costs. The labor alone much less the cost of the facilities in the field and equipment in the co are more than your mom and pop is worth. But you go on and continue to be pissy for being exposed as a know nothing.
I think the commenter meant FTTP.
The transport fiber networks will remain far into the future.
The way the residential consumers get their broadband will change.
FTTP, coax, and copper are too expensive to deploy and maintain.
All forms of wireless broadband is the future.
Fiber is far from dead. How do you think them towers connect back to the network, and who's providing that fiber? Get a clue Wizkid.
It's not just a Starlink. All forms of wireless will dominate the connections in the future.
Fiber, coax, and copper technologies are dead.
“Small telcos can’t afford to overbuild out into cities”
You’re absolutely wrong, I know because I’ve seen it done! You say you’ve had fiber for 7 years in you big metro home, well I’ve had it for 20 years now, from a mom and pop company who can into town with loan with the credit union! So who the ***k are you to tell me that it can’t be done! :-) … have a great 2025,
https://www.ntia.gov/press-release/2024/biden-harris-administration-approves-georgia-iowa-minnesota-and-south-carolina-s-internet-all
Nope money started flowing at the end of September and fibers already going in the ground!
“You wish that it’s a lie, but it’s not, Kate will sell off Quantum fiber, and once other companies have covered our exchanges with their fiber. lumen will start turning off the copper! And In 18 months there won’t be a Mass markets”
Do you think the majority of lumens metropolitan areas aren’t saturated with their own fiber to the home? I’ve had it at my house for 7 years. Lumen stopped offering copper service where fiber was present years ago. Flat out disqualified homes with a fiber footprint. Havnt seen a single overbuild except for far stretches of service territory. And not by the closest independent. Small telcos can’t afford to overbuild out into cities. Apartments are a different story…a few different fiber companies involved. One already went bankrupt. I really think you don’t know how anything works or exists outside of a very small midwestern town.
“The Exchange was overbuilt with fiber to the house.. Get this “20 years ago” by a mom and pop independent, they over built it with just a Loan from the credit union, they are now over building all the other Exchanges in the Entire Freaking RCA with Bead money
lol, yea sure they did. Was mom and pops name Verizon? Ran all that fiber 50 miles out of their little remote out on the plains. Or ahem…exchange. Lmao pssst…Verizon spent about a billion dollars doing it. Must have been a friendly credit union.
As of Nov. 2024….no one has been connected or funds allocated
https://connectednation.org/blog/states-are-in-the-drivers-seat-as-the-bead-program-finally-gains-momentum#:~:text=No%20one%20has%20been%20connected,But%20they%20will%20come%20soon.
“youre just a hack. So you say local independent telcos are overbuilding...at about 50k per mile on the low end. “
I live in what was a NWB then a US West then Qwest and what’s now a Lumen exchange.
The Exchange was overbuilt with fiber to the house.. Get this “20 years ago” by a mom and pop independent, they over built it with just a Loan from the credit union, they are now over building all the other Exchanges in the Entire Freaking RCA with Bead money!!
Don’t know where you coming up with 50k a mile,
“LIAR! The majority of bead money hasnt been allocated yet and not a single fiber has been placed yet.“
You wish that it’s a lie, but it’s not, Kate will sell off Quantum fiber, and once other companies have covered our exchanges with their fiber. lumen will start turning off the copper! And In 18 months there won’t be a Mass markets!
Not sure the bead money is for overbuilds. Could be wrong. Have heard the grants are to place facilities to areas that currently don’t have access to high speed internet.
Co based DSL doesn’t really qualify as High speed, the us government considers 25 meg and up to high speed, from what I’ve seen most Rural exchanges never got and caf money or build outs..several had ATM stingers and those are now turned down, so yes other companies are over building our towns and exchanges with fiber to the home!
Our Mediacom grants team is active in searching for new build opportunities across our entire 22-state footprint,” said Chris Lord, Senior Director of Government Partnerships for Mediacom. “With an unprecedented amount of federal dollars awarded to states through the Broadband Equity, Access and Deployment (BEAD) program,
Other Companies are already putting in fiber and connecting to our former customers with BEAD funded Fiber
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20241022638766/en/Mediacom-Communications-Launches-Online-Tools-to-Help-Inform-and-Connect-Residents-in-New-Build-Markets#:~:text=%E2%80%9CWith%20an%20unprecedented%20amount%20of,areas%20to%20modern%20communications%20services.%E2%80%9D&text=Mediacom%20Communications%20Corporation%20is%20the,is%20available%20at%20mediacomcable.com.
https://www.midamericanenergy.com/vendors-middle-mile-broadband
https://broadbandbreakfast.com/lumen-facing-fine-in-wake-of-rdof-defaults/
Kate walked away from Rural development funds.
"Lumen has already withdrawn from or declined participation in bidding, in most of the BEAD programs around here, all the local BEAD money went to independent Telcos which are now coming over from adjacent exchanges, and over building our exchanges with their fiber and providing voice and data!
Even the power companies are now picking up BEAD money to do middle mile fiber, to my knowledge Lumen didn’t even apply!
It looks to me that there will likely be no mass markets customers in most of the lumen exchanges in 12-18 months, and Lumen seems ok with it,"
LIAR! The majority of bead money hasnt been allocated yet and not a single fiber has been placed yet. Your use of the word "exchange" is a dead give away that youre just a hack. So you say local independent telcos are overbuilding...at about 50k per mile on the low end. In my area the closest independent is about 35 miles outside the city. And lets disregard the highways and right of ways, he-l much less a railroad or river. Now figure about half that distance will be buried. Double or triple the cost. So they get to the city and go aerial. What if there isnt room on the poles for that extra cable? Gotta respect the nesc rules or face some hefty fines..Yea, lumen has some hefty fines for just those reasons. See dude, its just not driving a truck down the street and placing fiber wherever someone wants. Oh yea, maybe theres room on the first pole but not the 10th pole...and every pole up and down every single street in the city. How about those splices? Where they going to go? Back to the right of way issues again.
You know absolutely nothing about how a network is engineered or the cost to turn it up. If you actually work for lumen you must be some door to door sales rep. Even a tech with 2 weeks on the job has more of a clue than you.
Not sure the bead money is for overbuilds. Could be wrong. Have heard the grants are to place facilities to areas that currently don’t have access to high speed internet. Once placed the recipient owns it and maintains it for not much return on investment. And that’s the catch….not enough customers to make money paying a workforce. Business runs out of cash, goes bankrupt and sells to a bigger company. Like I said I could be entirely wrong but it’s been happening state wise for years. Co-located companies and wholesalers have been dropping like flies because of the day to day. Over builders (if they can even find the space to place fiber) run out of cash before they can even turn it up. Sounds like a great idea but only to companies that can afford the aftermath. Leave the rural to satellites if they can get the price down.
If it’s government money being handed out Mexico ted and African Elon will be the first two in line.
BEAD, isn’t a priority
https://www.lightwaveonline.com/home/article/55138654/lumens-cfo-well-participate-in-bead-if-we-believe-theres-an-opportunity
Lumen has already withdrawn from or declined participation in bidding, in most of the BEAD programs around here, all the local BEAD money went to independent Telcos which are now coming over from adjacent exchanges, and over building our exchanges with their fiber and providing voice and data!
Even the power companies are now picking up BEAD money to do middle mile fiber, to my knowledge Lumen didn’t even apply!
It looks to me that there will likely be no mass markets customers in most of the lumen exchanges in 12-18 months, and Lumen seems ok with it,