Thread regarding Dell Inc. layoffs

Massive Tenure Problem

I've worked at 5 companies and never have I encountered so many employees with such long tenure.

How can anyone expect innovation if half the staff has been here for 10+ years, 1/3 have been clinging on for 20+ years?
Many have only worked at Dell and nowhere else.

Any new hires with outside perspectives are crushed by the overwhelming number of Dell lifers and their antiquated thinking.

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Post ID: @OP+1jj80wssn

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Let's be honest most folks stay because they don't have any better options.
I'm stuck at the same grade level for almost 10 years now but can't find anything else.
Pay increases barely cover inflation and don't keep up with industry compensation that new hires are paid, I figure that's why they are keeping me around.

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Post ID: @153+1jj80wssn

These guys are like a gang and they toxic while being mediocre great Dell repsā€¦

Privileged arroganceā€¦ quite mediocre

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Post ID: @tj+1jj80wssn

"The best "old timers" adapt easily to new ideas, can look past trends and fads and have the battle scars to see potential problems. "

The best engineers rarely stay at the same place for very long...that's how they gained all the knowledge to become the best
GOOGL, FB, AMZN all encourage their employees to leave after a few years by cutting RSU compensation.

Total compensation for top talent at these companies is easily 400k per year.

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Post ID: @qw+1jj80wssn

There is certainly an issue when it comes to documentation and training - that's why we need these old timers so much.. the answers are in their grey covered heads. Besides, acting like younger folks have the answers lol - we are just chasing what's trending and looking forward to lunch.

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Post ID: @j4+1jj80wssn

I work in support, and when the sh*t hits the fan everyone wants help from the guy with 10+ years experience. Too bad very few stick around anymore since Dell started treating us like call center employees.

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Post ID: @fz+1jj80wssn

"The "grey beards" of any company hold a vast wealth of institutional knowledge"

Any tribal knowledge should have been documented a long time ago. The fact that it hasn't been done confirms the issues OP is describing

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Post ID: @et+1jj80wssn

"long tenured people at dell are awful"

yup. and look at the responses here from them confirms it.
unaware of their own hubris.

Most of them mention their xx years as dell as some sort of great feat. I secretly rolled my eyes since it signaled to me their lack of ambition or growth

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Post ID: @d5+1jj80wssn

This is true. I have worked at lots of companies and some of the long tenured people at dell are awful

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Post ID: @d3+1jj80wssn

I hope the author never reaches management level. The generalization that long time employees inhibit progress shows an ignorance of people management.

Many of our long term colleagues hold patents in software and hardware engineering. Many issued in the past few years.

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Post ID: @d1+1jj80wssn

is this you AOC?

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Post ID: @cq+1jj80wssn

You’ve been at 5 companies over how many years? Here’s a thought. Maybe your ideas are d-mb. That could be a real possibility. But you’re right. It’s probably everyone else.

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Post ID: @cp+1jj80wssn

There’s a reason why EMC kicked Dell’s a-s in storage marketshare across all segments. It would have been nice if they respected that when they acquired EMC and learned from them. Instead they pushed Dell’s pea-brain ideas of how enterprise products should be engineered, sold, delivered, and what a surprise, we’ve lost marketshare, lost deep knowledge on the pre-sales side (guess where all the good pre-sales engineers went. They are making a ki-ling at Pure), our support su-ks, our documentation su-ks, and now they’ve WFRd the team that even qualifies environments to run on our products, because who needs that? Was EMC without problems? Of course not, every company has its issues, but goodness, some L-Dell folks are so far up MSD’s ar-e it’s blinding you. A laptop isn’t a PowerMax. Stop treating them the same.

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Post ID: @b3+1jj80wssn

I did not decide to work at this sh-t hole.. I was acquired big difference.. EMC was a good company run by a freaking all male crew... to bad we had great products run by a everyone out for yourself.. shame...

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Post ID: @b1+1jj80wssn

f dell they ki-led a great storage company emc what lets introduce a server product that is supposed be storage ha! than cannot sell to the government for years.. pure netapp whipping our as--s.. so horrible what kinda sh-t is this.

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Post ID: @b0+1jj80wssn

Tenure itself is not the problem, L-EMC tenure is.

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Post ID: @az+1jj80wssn

20+ year engineer. I totally throw back in your face that we can't be innovative. That's ridiculous.

The best "old timers" adapt easily to new ideas, can look past trends and fads and have the battle scars to see potential problems.

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Post ID: @ak+1jj80wssn

"The "grey beards" of any company hold a vast wealth being in a company for 20+ years "

my man, those days are long gone especially in tech.
The one company till retirement is Eisenhower era thinking.
The fact you're going on about all this just literally proves the original post.

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Post ID: @aa+1jj80wssn

The office I work is full of kids in sales that have no real idea or intrest in anything other than meeting up with large stanley cups for coffee and chats.
The company is in a complete freefall.

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Post ID: @a9+1jj80wssn

young kids fresh out of college that think they know everything are a far worse problem when they are not open to ideas of folks that worked at Dell/EMC for 25+ years.... The "grey beards" of any company hold a vast wealth of institutional knowledge that only comes from being in a company for 20+ years.
College grads think that anyone that has been in a company for more than 5 years is stagnant and close minded. yet it is that exact thing that they are guilty of themselves.

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Post ID: @a8+1jj80wssn

My experience as well. They stifle new ideas and are imbued with an unqualified hubris that they celebrate in.
The inside nomenclature is dellaplegics.

I couldn't understand it until I framed it as a small factory town (Round Rock is their HQ).
Then everything made sense.

New hires recognise this relatively quick and move on. There is no there there.

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Post ID: @a7+1jj80wssn

... and yet you decided to work here!?

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