Big Kate email that if you're trying to be inclusive it's not allowed. They've already stripped funding and told groups not to meet even if it's just small get together.
Get a backbone.
Is DEI perfect? No.
But stripping programs under threat when its not even illegal shows how spineless they are.
Over it. Good luck all. I'm out.
Temper tantrum huh….
DEI should be illegal. After all, it’s nothing more than blatant bigotry. There should be no safe place for that cr-p in our society.
Big Kate cares about the company by not losing government contracts.
Wow, really? Will Kate fire all the now useless people who were hired to create the allyshit curriculum? Or did all those people just have their titles changed?
What about the most obvious question that is not even discussed: Why do we need DEI policies in the first place? Why did we need Affirmative Action policies in the first place?
I did not get a choice of who my parents are! I was not given the choice of my skin color! I did not get a choice for my gender at birth! I did not get a choice for what Era, decade or year I was brought in to this backwards a** world! I did not make the decisions of yesterday, last year or the last 4 decades on who was getting hired and for what in particular!
I just chose to be the best person I can be to the human sitting next to me! Your ill will is projecting to the wrong crowd...go after the businesses, leaders and hiring practices of such, not the co worker who is just trying to survive like you!
DEI is JIM CROW rebranded. don't be stupid people. Think for yourselves.
I think even beyond the dei argument, which I havnt really seen in my area, is that this company wants cheap employees. Doesn’t matter the gender, color etc. if they’re willing to work for less they goto the top of the list. Notably I saw a 20 year engineer (one of the remaining that is a good engineer) get passed over for a promotion for a jr engineer with 3 years. Both same gender and color but about a 25k a year pay differnce on the scale. Complete bs. The problems start from the top.
"What ever happened to the Ai push Kate was doing? She hired that Ai developer guy and then he quits?"
weren't there at least two? the guy from AWS who didn't really do any AI but she insisted he did, then also one of her old GE cronies too, also gone
What ever happened to the Ai push Kate was doing? She hired that Ai developer guy and then he quits? Is everything that needed automation now running under Ai ?
You are all id--ts .. the problem is and always has been at this company is managers favorites !!! Of course most all of them have no need for dei .. and it wouldn’t help them anyway .. the favorites get the growing accounts .. not because they deserve it .. I’m throwing up on these comments
Just stop vilifying strait white men! Is that really so hard!"
straight- maybe YOU are a DEI hire.
OH SNAP, YOU GOT ME!
I’ll take my retirement and go! Not like lumen is going to be around much longer!
"Just stop vilifying strait white men! Is that really so hard!"
straight- maybe YOU are a DEI hire.
“the biggest benefactors of DEI policies are white women. Not POC but white women. They were in place to keep bigots like yourself from leadership positions and now we have to revert back to the good ole boy system.”
Wow! 😮
What will people who use the excuse that they don’t have a job because of DEI,
Who cares they aren’t on the job, I think the point is that DEI has made going to work more Displeasurable and with its demise there will be less Gas lighting less drama less of the reverse racism!
“And in the last 4 years haven’t seen one person out of a dozen who has have the qualifications the education let alone the skills to do the work!! Some are completely illiterate can’t even do basic math!.. and it’s pretty bad when staffing sends us new hire techs don’t have and can’t even get a driver license”
When you have to lie to make a point you’ve lost. If the position requires a drivers license and they don’t have one they’re not getting hired. No company on earth is going to hire an employee and put them in a company vehicle without an active drivers license. But since that is what you claim can you tell me where? I’d like to follow them around hoping they run into me. I’d love to be a billionaire after the lawsuit.
What will people who use the excuse that they don’t have a job because of DEI initiatives use now that it’s gone? DEI in the workplace or not, the same people who don’t want to work, who get fired from every job they’ve had, who quit after they’ve been employed long enough to earn unemployment benefits will always have an excuse. Doesn’t matter what their gender or skin color is.
DEI, is the policy.. every year the DEI training tell us that white people are afraid of losing power, and while we don’t realize we whites are all inherently racist, and white men are inherently misogynistic to boot.
Because of that racism and misogyny there is a patriarchal oppression of everyone else! The purpose of DEI is to remove white men from the workplace to destroy white mens power in order to break the patriarchy racist oppression.
Those aren’t my views those or the views and opinions of proponents of DEI as conveyed in the mandatory training.. Did I get the wrong message??
"Just like you its Blue, but again because of Implicit bias, people can see the their discretionary behavior."
Apparently you missed the point that your claiming: "Doesn’t happen! Most companies have written policies banning the hiring of white men!" is complete and total BS.
But feel free to reference and post links to all the written documentation plus location in document where we can find these policies. Also, statistics as to what qualifies as "most companies" might help also. Inquiring minds want to know.
“complete and total utter garbage in this thread is proof that corporations need some type of diversity training. “
We’ve all had Diversity training Repeatedly and we’ve been really tolerant of it,
even though its ignorant pie in the sky BS that make our work lives harder and is doomed to fail, What more do you want from us!
“ complete and total utter garbage in this thread is proof that corporations need some type of diversity training. I can't believe I have to work alongside these disgusting people.
and before you go oh just quit, you quit... you're the one who clearly wants to be an a*hole to others.“
Just stop vilifying strait white men! Is that really so hard!
the complete and total utter garbage in this thread is proof that corporations need some type of diversity training. I can't believe I have to work alongside these disgusting people.
and before you go oh just quit, you quit... you're the one who clearly wants to be an a*hole to others.
“What color is the sky in the world you are living in? “
Just like you its Blue, but again because of Implicit bias, people can see the their discretionary behavior.
And I’m not looking for a job have been with the company for over 30 years!
I’m Just looking at who’s coming on board over the last few years and well they aren’t white men that’s for sure! I’ve made many referrals no one ever gets a response from staffing, let alone interviews.
And in the last 4 years haven’t seen one person out of a dozen who has have the qualifications the education let alone the skills to do the work!! Some are completely illiterate can’t even do basic math!.. and it’s pretty bad when staffing sends us new hire techs don’t have and can’t even get a driver license!
"Doesn’t happen! Most companies have written policies banning the hiring of white men!"
What color is the sky in the world you are living in? And if you are not getting hired anywhere, I think I can understand why.
DEI, isn’t about acceptance, if you work for Lumen you’ve done your anti harassment coverage, then you know that a Islamic employee can openly practice their religion in the work place and that management needs to do their best to schedule meetings around prayer time.. well I’m ok with that.. and over the years I’ve seen a little Buddha or two on company property..
but over the years I’ve seen an incredible intolerance towards Christians, been in grievances meetings because employees wore crosses around their neck, had religious theme bumper stickers on their personal cars in the company parking lot, and even because some had a 6in tall foot prints in the sand placard at their desk! To be tolerant of Islam if grate but being intolerant of Christianity is Bigotry!
“Hilarious that the people who want to cancel diversity and claim the best person should be hired for a job are the same people who go silent when a middle aged white man is hired ahead of a more qualified woman or person of color”
Doesn’t happen! Most companies have written policies banning the hiring of white men! Even when there are no qualified candidates of minority status the job will go unfilled, rather than hire a white guy! Especially when he’s straight, a flamboyant g-y guy might have a chance but even then it’s slim!
Agreed DEI is the Flat Earth equivalent of modern society, DEI falls apart once you admit that white men can be disadvantaged and discriminated against!
Affirmative action which started in the 1960’s was about equality, in that all things being equal a person’s gender or race shouldn’t be a consideration!
DEI was the next step in that race and gender weren’t no longer barriers to individuals, so DEI directly targeted the all things being equal part, making it an imperative to hire the non qualified this was justified under a neo Marxist equity employment policy of to those what they need and from those what they have! Its just a logical conclusion that people of protected status are possibly a DEI hire.. because the world is completely intolerant of straight white man who is week!
Because once again in the Philosophy DEI as it was in the Philosophy Affirmative Action, white men have all the advantages are part of a patriarchal system that allows them to have extra privileges in life and so they have no excuses for not being successful!
When a NBA team hires a 5’3” portly white guy to play forward guard then DEI will apply to white guys, but at this point DEI means hiring a Person of color who’s weight exceeds the safety limits of a ladder, and then giving them a waver from climbing, because the Able body white guys on the crew can do their work for them in the name of diversity! That’s just one example of the rules having been bent sideways and down.. in the name Of DEI, most DEI hires can’t do the work, that’s DEI was implemented! Equity its self requires the exploitation of stronger individuals to lift up and hold up the weaker people in the community!
“I’m not implying anything. I’m flat out stating that the same people who claim dei hire anytime a woman or person of color is hired or promoted, no matter their qualifications, will not say a peep when any white man is hired or promoted with lesser qualifications.“
Your implicit bias towards white men is quite obvious,
I’m not implying anything. I’m flat out stating that the same people who claim dei hire anytime a woman or person of color is hired or promoted, no matter their qualifications, will not say a peep when any white man is hired or promoted with lesser qualifications.
That’s not implying that all white people are inferior so don’t get your little pa-ties in a bind because I already know where you are trying to go by saying that. I’m all for hiring the most qualified person for a job. Are you? Or is your pool of qualified personnel quite a bit smaller…from your simpleton response I already know.
“same people who go silent when a middle aged white man is hired ahead of a more qualified woman or person of color”
Please do tell us, just where does HR publish the all qualifications of the all the applicants,
or are you just implying that as a general rule, all white men are inferior to women and people of color?
Hilarious that the people who want to cancel diversity and claim the best person should be hired for a job are the same people who go silent when a middle aged white man is hired ahead of a more qualified woman or person of color.
40 years ago, people were complaining about affirmative action and people getting awarded jobs based on a characteristic, and people of minority status were complaining about how it didn’t go far enough!
Same childish drama being used to distract the masses! We all have much big problems coming our way, The universe doesn’t care!
Glad that sh-t is gone.
Know how I know most of you have no brain? Y’all are saying how racist DEI policies are to white people when the biggest benefactors of DEI policies are white women. Not POC but white women. They were in place to keep bigots like yourself from leadership positions and now we have to revert back to the good ole boy system.
Coward. That’s what yall are and what this companies leadership and BoD stand for.
You must have triggered the bots to activate with this post. There havnt been 50 some reactions to a topic on this sight for months combined.
DEI is only going away on paper. Kate is changing IS' job title instead of outright firing that worthless VP. Minimal compliance.
DEI should have never existed. Merit only.
Well, folks, it looks like we’ve finally cracked the code to turning things around—by canceling DEI. Because, of course, when revenue is declining, the best course of action is to eliminate one of the few programs leadership can effortlessly implement, celebrate, and pat themselves on the back for, all while avoiding the more uncomfortable conversations about, you know… actually fixing the business.
It's a brilliant move, really. Why focus on structural problems—like performance, innovation, or customer retention—when we can just cut a program that gave us something to applaud in company meetings? It’s like the captain of a sinking ship deciding that the best way to stay afloat is to repaint the lifeboats instead of plugging the hole in the hull.
But hey, at least now we won’t have to hear about all those pesky “initiatives” designed to make the company more inclusive and competitive. And who needs that when we can sit back and watch the stock price sink, all while proudly declaring victory over a program that wasn’t even the problem in the first place?
Here’s to bold leadership—may the optics be ever in your favor.
Instead of DEI which recognizes only the people groups or minorities that the company prefers to recignize why not treat everyone in the company with respect and professional courtesy? I come to work each day to work not to be told I am less of a person than someone else due to my skin color or my gender ir beliefs. What I think or believe is none of the company's business. Each person is unique and has differences of backgrounds and beliefs. That is true diversity, respecting people even if their beliefs differ from yours especially in the work environment. Mature people can disagree and still be respectful and professional at work if they cannot be act like an adult at work then their review needs to reflect that. It's called common sense and common courtesy. It's that simple.
Dei is just a mask for real racism. The only "Government Threat" I saw that you loose your Job if you don't take the Fauci Ouchy Totalitarian Clot SHOT mandated but the father of Hunter B. and his now famous laptop from he-l. Perhaps Kate is a better fit as a host on MSNBC, she's no leader. We dare her to quit and go where she belongs. And take that Linda lady with her.
How many millions have they made by Lying and Laying off good people? How much more is going to be Laundered? They don't care about the company, the workers or the customers. Just how much money they can extract for themselves and their buddies.