What is going on? Is HCSC regretting this sale? There’s been nothing but confusion, Cigna execs leaving, people being fired or moved to random departments and zero communication.
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It appears the employee issue with this sale is a huge snafu. You should be a Cigna member with a Supplement plan (not Advantage)! None of us have a clue if we’ll have a plan in 2026 or how much the premiums will spike (Cigna’s premiums are very reasonable and they give a great family discount). I’ve sent emails to the VP of government plans and media specialists. No response from the first. The media specialists only say, “call the number on your card for plan information.” I don’t need information on my plan now. I want to know what’s happening in the future. It sounds like HCSC bit off more than they can chew and all Cigna policy holders are sc--wed.
Unclear goals, lack of communication, and things moving slowly is part of HCSC's culture. We have our upsides but that's a big downside and if you stick around it's something you learn to tolerate. It's not specific to the acquisition.
Some of the EA/AAs let go supported VPs so that logic doesn’t make sense.
Where is the CEO? Maurice Smith? You led this acquisition. Communication is poor and because of that, execution has been poor..
It’s a Charlie Foxtrot. If they don’t know, they are going to find out fast.
Correct. Dusty, after months of spewing propaganda about how great this acquisition would be, disappointingly walked out a little more than 24 hrs after the ink dried.
Tim, however, didn't have a choice.
I wonder if the job market will wind up trapping a lot of Cigna people here who otherwise would have left
I think HCSC leadership is in over their heads but too oblivious to even realize it. They have no idea what they bought and have shown no urgency to find out.
Former Cigna employee here. I can confirm that we had non-compete tied to our annual stock grants. We received the stock after close and there are no longer noncompetes. I also can confirm that HCSC total comp is at least 50k less a year for directors and it only keeps increasing the higher up folks are. We are all looking- it’s just too much money to lose to hold out for jobs that continue to be unclear and the path forward doesn’t look good.
What’s weird is no one knows what is going on. Cigna people don’t know and the HCSC leadership doesn’t know either. The business is at serious risk because the work the Cigna team brought over has all but completely stalled out because roles are unclear and there is no clear delineation of responsibility, authority and decision making rights. I’m afraid it is going to get much worse before it gets better. There is no answer other than “give it time” when the answer should be goals and a strategy to achieve them.
A conflict of interest is not the same as a non-solicit or non-compete. End of the day- an employer has to give you consideration for a contract to be enforceable. If it’s just a condition of employment, it’s not enforceable (all they can do is fire you).
So did all other employees...the conflict of interest form is a standard annual requirement for everyone.
@sz+1jqqcafzs I just got assigned a conflict of interest form in my HCSC university page...
Key Cigna employees were given retention bonuses by Cigna. They were payable upon close. Also, at close, any existing non-compete and non-solicits were no longer valid so the executives were able to move to competitors without those restrictions. HCSC did not offer any retentions (which would come with non-solicits and likely non-competes) so I suspect we will see many more Cigna folks leave since they have the opportunity to do so and they are not in positions to make an impact. The current structure of the HCSC model is not scalable - it just isn’t set up to manage the number of lives that came with the deal successfully in the tiny 2% margin of the business. All in all, this may not be a bad thing for legacy HCSC employees as it reduces the risk of talent competition.
There’s many people that I would not be sad if they let go. They are complete a** h**** for years.
Using that many acronyms in one sentence, you're gonna fit in just fine at HCSC.
Some VPs also lost their EAs and ones that weren’t JE’d were reassigned to them.
Dusty Diekman
TM is Tim May the HR rep
What I heard on the admin assistants was only VPs and up can have AAs in HCSC. Some Cigna Senior/Managing Directors had AAs and they were let go day 1
Who is dusty? And TM?
Safe to say Dusty is gone. TM is gone. And I heard every administrative assistant except 2 were let go on day 1 as well.
“If you don’t, then speak to your manager”.
Ha! Most managers have no clue!
What did you expect to learn? If people are laid off you’re not going to receive a detailed communication with all th le names, locations and the like. That’s not how this ever works. These changes would have been planned before close. Likely some executives knew they would be impacted but went through the motions to get a severance benefit. Do you have access to what you need to do your job? Do you know who you report to? Do you know your benefits and when you are paid? If you have what you need, you’re good. If you don’t, then speak to your manager.
"What is going on?" That's the million dollar question. So much disorganization and lack of clarity...
Not all the layoffs were due to ineligible for hire (re-hire). I also heard the got rid of every admin on day 1.
I reread your question, I’ve only known employees to be ineligible because they were termed for not meeting their roles’ requirements (like absenteeism, lack of production, failure to adhere to RTO, etc). Otherwise, HCSC confirms education, licensing, credit check, criminal record, etc. for new hires.
Those are people that worked for HCSC previously, and when they left the company(HCSC), they were deemed ineligible for rehire. Also, HCSC has a process they complete for new hire employment and if someone was not eligible based on that criteria then I’m sure they were let go, too. Cigna and HCSC don’t necessarily have the same criteria for employment.
What does “not eligible to work for HCSC” mean? In other words, what would make them not eligible?
Yeah, the executives leaving was likely planned, by HCSC or the exec. The layoffs, we've learned were due to employees not eligible for work with HCSC. Now, moving Cigna employees to random jobs around the company is mostly expected. HCSC was in a hiring freeze, and some depts. are really hurting for people because they haven't been allowed to backfill, or simply didn't get budget to post for 'new' positions. My guess is they planned to fill some of those roles with Cigna employees that are in positions that are duplicative or not needed by HCSC.
What you’re describing doesn’t sound like regrets, it sounds like the acquisition is being executed as planned.