Anyone else?
I've read several posts here and elsewhere that Cigna-Evernorth-Express Scripts Layoffs in first and second quarter of 2025 targeted employees with open, active, or recently returned FMLA. I was told job elimination. I was given 2.5 month with LHH but could never get communication from Rep for job postings. Spoke to co-workers in positions I applied that were hiring managers and they never received my application. There also seems to be several people over 40, within months of 20 years, and with high cost health conditions that makes me wonder why such a high percentage of this population seems to have been targeted when same/similar roles and titles of under 40 and without FMLA were not. Can companies access health records to thin the herd?
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@b2, not true. I had no idea my team was impacted until I was told to deliver severance packages. Managers don't submit names or necessarily know, they aren't the decision maker.
I needed longer than the 12 weeks protection of FMLA, and they promptly terminated me after denying a major portion of my short term disability - forcing an appeal. Deny, delay, deny, delay…..
FMLA protects your job from being eliminated because you are on leave, but not from being eliminated for other, non-retaliatory reasons. If anyone let go while on FMLA and thinks it is in retaliation for you taking FMLA, go and consult with a legal expert asap.
Someone on my team, who recently took FMLA, was layed off.
@c7 h
HIH has everything to do with it.
jobs that used to be done by US employees are now transferred to HIH (and ofcourse US employees getting laid off). sure, it’s for cost cutting. but cost cutting not to benefit the insured (healthcare price doesn’t go down) it’s all for profit.
Because a lot of posts on here reference job eliminations and HIH is a reason some if not most have lost their jobs.
@b2 why does HIH come in all the topics?
This has nothing to do with HIH.
Think from another angle, with costs increasing in US, Cigna and similar companies are trying to mitigate the operational costs while keeping the healthcare cost affordable + pleasing their shareholders. Its all a balancing act, look at Cigna’s balance sheet, if they did not lay off or move to a lower cost model, they would have been brink of sudden drop in profits in Q2 2025.
@aj Yeah, but your manager, who has to submit names for layoffs, is going to know if you're on FMLA. They might not know the specifics. But they'll know you missed work.
Budgets are cut and their manager expects them to do more with less.
No one has to actually say "lay off the people on FMLA" or "layoff the Americans and keep the people at HIH who make less".
They just have to say "your budget is now half, decide who to keep".
HIPAA and ADA laws prevent disclosure of your medical information without your authorization. Employee medical records are separate from employee personnel files to maintain confidentiality.