Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

"There were quite a few folks in India who relocated to different towns and cities without permission and were having a fun time NOT- working remotely and moonlighting. "

It's not just India. My wife's "moonlighting" in the US has done quite well in the last few years and she plans go to full time with her side-gig when Oracle lays her off.

It’s all about real estate
They want either or renegotiate leases.
Housing is a problem -REITs are looking for office buiiding to convert to Apts.
ultimately I’m sure they would like you to work at home. It’s a lot cheaper.
They are eliminating mid mgjt VPs soon
AI willl monitor everything. Once most of mid mgmt VPs are gone employees will get bonuses. Nvadia is going to be best thing for Oracle.

“There were quite a few folks in India who relocated to different towns and cities without permission”

I didn’t realise we needed permission.

I wonder why these people you speak of were moonlighting. Maybe they just enjoy working every hour in the day?

“SM was very reasonable on expectations regarding RTO. He just wants to consolidate unused real estate and save money for the employees.”

Of course. I look forward to all that extra money we’ll be getting. Definitely going to spend it on the employees.

There were quite a few folks in India who relocated to different towns and cities without permission and were having a fun time NOT- working remotely and moonlighting. Now it’s time they get their a-s back to work. SM has done a fantastic job asking people to get back.

In a way RTO will work out well for North America as very few of us are left here.

SM was very reasonable on expectations regarding RTO. He just wants to consolidate unused real estate and save money for the employees. If more folks choose to be remote more we can save for O. All managers are encouraged to not sc--w up now by forcing employees to RTO.

Did you think it was on-brand for LJE and SC to not renege on their promises or cede control? They’ve been fleecing employees for years. When did you think they’d stop?

When the pandemic hit, Oracle wanted to be seen as one of the forward-thinking, compassionate businesses that cares about it employees. So they copied what others were doing. I even got an email saying there were no plans to ever bring us back to the office full time. Now that the world is no longer watching, they’re going back on their word.

Not sure why but everyone on this MB is missing the fact that Oracle Management puts the FU back in "fun".

"So what will they do with people that moved far away, with approval, in the last couple years? "

Fire them.

OMG what fugging clowns are running that place? So glad I left ora$hithole last year. Good luck to you all.

SM has sent out message to entire applications group at least to get their a-s back in the office.

There are still the various roles of in-office, flex, remote. How each GBU and for that matter each org treats those eligible for remote/flex may differ but the directive we’ve received is that we need to honor the roles we have - we were all hired as flex, remote until the inevitable return to normal happens.

"Obvious solution is get staff back in and save on the home office expenses." Save on what home office expenses?? Oracle hasn't paid for sh-t.

5 days in office. WTF.

Loozer -------^

So just an alternative thought to the bullying / encouraging layoffs comments … all these offices are sitting near empty and costing a lot of $$$ to maintain. They probably can’t get out of the leases and can’t sublet as nobody will want them. Obvious solution is get staff back in and save on the home office expenses.

5 days in office. WTF. What happened to hybrid, work-life balance ?

“ Good to know Oracle management is getting the company back on track “

You mean the same folks who pushed it off the track?

“Their work roles and work situations are now obsolete. I don't know how the management team could have made this any clearer.”

Except nobody ever said that. Did you even read the email?

So what will they do with people that moved far away, with approval, in the last couple years?

Or the many people that were remote even before the pandemic?

Their work roles and work situations are now obsolete. I don't know how the management team could have made this any clearer.

Ankle grabbing time! BOHICA!!! 😬

What exactly does the memo say?

So what will they do with people that moved far away, with approval, in the last couple years?

Or the many people that were remote even before the pandemic?

Yay ! Planning my schedule when at the office. Unable to fit any actual work due to higher priority activities like gym, eating out, socializing, meetings, gossiping, politics.

Yeah, wait for me, I'm coming

I need therapy sessions first before I can start working from office. I have forgotten my way to the office and have lost my badge.

My summer plans were just doomed. Had booked 2 months VRBO in Mexico.

Start planning your 3 month india trip from April 17th.

Only folks who want to return to offices are VPs who want to just fill up their day with unproductive meetings and commuting.

Good to know Oracle management is getting the company back on track!

the remaining oracle employees aren't a group of high-character individuals, since those individuals left long ago. having to return to an office environment will build character. win-win for oracle

“ Time to boost shareholder value, which is a total no-brainer. “

No brainer. Sounds like management can handle that one!

IBM'ers were told they could WFH from anywhere, then a few years later, they were told they had 30 days to start reporting 5 days a week to their assigned office. Some people had never ever seen the assigned office location, they were hired as remote, and randomly assigned. The whole exercise was designed to get people to quit, so IBM didn't have to pay severance. It worked, as some of their best people left.

Think about it.

Oracle execs view rank and file employees with distain and disgust. I.e., as expendable, disposable, exploitable loozers. It sux, but it's also a fact. Not unlike how the GOP views their own constituents, btw.

so many whiney d-bags mowing their lawns while they go on mute during work calls

Agree that employee productivity for at-home workers is in the tank. Time to boost shareholder value, which is a total no-brainer.

Say, for example, that a worker returns to the office under pressure (with a written objection) , and say that individual was then exposed at work and died of COVID, could the company be found liable in the death of that employee?

Should you all write out an objection letter just in case?

I find it ironic in a company that insists on having concrete metrics to justify every penny they spend, and that doesn’t believe in marketing, is trying to market locking people in an office from 9-5 as “enabling camaraderie and a collaborative spirit of innovation”. I’d like to see you measure that. GFY Oracle.

Working from the office will give you a more structured life. No more checking your mail at 7:15 am.

We had a name for it back in the day, we called it "going by the book".
So go by the book.

There still flex and remote options. Work roles will be communicated by our manager in 30 days.

Yes, your manager is all seeing, all knowing. He/she is in control.