Thread regarding Avaya layoffs

Think before quitting

Sometimes it can be frustrating to work for a mismanaged company and it's easy to think that the grass must be greener on the other side. But I would caution against making any rash decisions. Oftentimes, people who leave a company end up regretting it not long after and wanting to come back. So take some time to think it over and weigh your options before making any big moves. Just a friendly 2 cents.

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Post ID: @OP+1lD6uHpE

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These posts on LinkedIn make me feel a little bit sick, celebrating that they’ve been able to wipe out the debt

So glad I left when I did, people should have pride in the company they work for. Sure Avaya was fundamental to our personal development. Avaya is like that old uncle who used to be cool, but now he just pi---s himself at the dinner table as he’s too old and has lost the plot

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Post ID: @8kib+1lD6uHpE

Pass the salt

Tap the Keg

Pour the Shot

Call the Therapist

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Post ID: @3zfk+1lD6uHpE

Alan said he’s had great conversations with many partners, that these conversations were positive.

He also has said “words matter”, “No, we won’t be delisted”, “Hear me clearly, if thought we’d be filing bankruptcy right out the gate or at all, I wouldn’t have come.”, “No, we aren’t filing bankruptcy”, and “We have plenty of liquidity in the financial deal we just did”.

Pass the salt please.

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Post ID: @3pti+1lD6uHpE

Avaya partners are concerned about doing business with Avaya. The cloud model pays commissions and monthly payments over the life of the contract. If Avaya doesn’t make it, the partners get screwed for all its hard work. Very high risk doing business with Avaya.

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Post ID: @3gnl+1lD6uHpE

No. That would require actually having HR. Avaya has 2-3 people with titles but they have zero HR

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Post ID: @2jks+1lD6uHpE

The talent left years ago. The leftovers are holding on because know they're at peak of they're career.

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Post ID: @2jbp+1lD6uHpE

Is this some sort of HR desperate attempt to instill fear?

HA! Don't worry. Avaya ALWAYS retains those whom you DON'T WANT! Kind of funny that you are 'scared". Attrition isn't a bad thing now. AND, the ones you don't want are the ones who will always stay!

I was an employee who filed an ethics violation claim. Was ignored. Had a family emergency and left on FMLA. before the 30-day mark of the FMLA decision I was locked out of the system. Then small minded people declared I was fired. Publicly.

Interesting twist. Employment law violations are not protected under Chapter 11.

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Post ID: @2vqe+1lD6uHpE

Staying on a ship that is seaworthy is smart but staying on a sinking ship is insane.

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Post ID: @1cmd+1lD6uHpE

Agreed, think before quitting. Think - I will be happier. Think - my new company wants me.Think - I don’t need this bull. Think - I don’t want to keep sucking this dried old te-t.

Have a nice day, and rememberTHINK My happiness is important and to achieve it I need change.

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Post ID: @qqk+1lD6uHpE

Well, today I did something I haven’t done in a long time, applied for another job (so the hunt is on). Twenty plus years and I’ve been thru three bankruptcies, listened to many CEOs say “Let’s Win”, and then wipe out all of the employees shares without even so much as a thank you for the hard earned money you had invested back into the company (This has happen twice to me). I have a really hard time wrapping my head around leadership that has the audacity to do that with a straight face, and then say “We’re building a great place to work”, I mean they insult the employee’s intelligence at every turn. They’ll promise no bankruptcy and in the same statement say “being open, honest, and transparent”, then they file bankruptcy and wipe you out. I really feel bad for the younger employees, if you’re listening, listen well. This companies leadership only knows one thing, rinse and repeat. After twenty plus years I’ve only had a 401k match maybe 5 years, I was given stock options one time that ended up $50,000 under water. The only person that can thrive here (besides Alan and the BOD) is Benjamin Button. The people are the only thing that has been worth it, great customer facing people that had been wonderful to work with, but the leadership is all dog eat dog. Time to move on, and good luck to the rest of you.

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Post ID: @prh+1lD6uHpE

i thought and the only reason I could think of for staying was a redundancy payout. Decision made, not worth any money to remain in toxic environment. I left, couldn't be happier even though I took a drop in salary. Sorry I didn't do sooner. Now I have a future I control.

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Post ID: @yae+1lD6uHpE

Most of the people still here are pretty burned out. Me? Thriving in chaos because there is something wrong with me in the head, but if people want to leave.... it'll probably do wonders for their quality of life.

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Post ID: @iyl+1lD6uHpE

I left Avaya six months or so ago. I still follow this board as it is the only source of information I have for some of the inner workings of the company and it is still in my financial interest... I stayed too long. I stayed because it was easy. I stayed because I was content to limp out a future and not challenged. That was a mistake. At my current company I am challenged and I work much harder than at Avaya, but it is valuable work. I'm respected by my leaders, peers, and customers. Avaya was terrible for me, and I recommend anyone having thoughts of leaving to leave now. They do not have a future and they are pushing smoke. Stop breathing it in.

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