Thread regarding Avaya layoffs

Avaya is OVER unless you TAKE ACTION! Apollo will sell it off...

Let's review what was not said. The truth always lies in what is NOT stated/avoided.

FACT 1

  • Announcement tagged Morristown, NJ. CEO hosted "Analyst" Conference from NYC. Be prepared for AVYA to negotiate a tax benefit to move offical HQ back to NJ or NYState (as NY State has significant incentives currently available to compensate for the 2020 mass exodus). Be prepared for widespread layoffs in Durham as soon as they can exit the state without penalty for local tax incentives.

FACT 2

  • Waxing Poetically about the path to the best Capital Structure in the market neglects to tell the REAL STORY that is laid out as clear as day in the actual restructuring papers presented to the court. What is missing from the Press Release and Marketing Spin Roadshow? APOLLO!APOLLO!APOLLO! Apollo began this game with Avaya in 2019. They were denied when the Board decided to pursue the Ring Central Partnership instead of alternative options. Then, they recruited board members to join their cause (Scott Vogel primarily). Vogel queued Apollo into the Subscription bubble busting and they essentially felt they had Chirico and McGrath up against a wall and they could threaten them with securities violations and get them to give in. They didn’t. They kept fighting. They recruited Masarek. Apollo figured Masarek would see the real numbers and naturally give in to allowing Apollo to devalue equity and get their payday. They had bought into the debt and had the chance to buy some more to give them that leverage. HOWEVER Apollo plan became comprimised when Masarek looked at the cash/debt and realized Apollo didn't have leverage. They were just being bullies and Masarek confidently communicated that all will be well.

FACT 3

  • Just prior to new CEO news, there was another variable that Apollo didn't count on -- a large new shareholder that acquired shares over time that resulted in them owning 15% by July/Aug 2022. Combined with the CEO news and Masarek confidence, led to significant market momentum. Surge in shareholder confidence. Market cap improved. Higher Market Cap/ Avaya had better terms with the Lenders. Typically, that would result in a hostile take over group backing down. Accepting that they lost the corporate espionage game and moving on to the next target. But not Apollo.

Fact 4

  • That began the 3 mos T-t-4-Tat game between Masarek and Pro-Apollo board members. Apollo planted interim CFO Becky Roof (of Alix Partners) . She was fresh from Faraday Future, where she, along with Avaya board member Scott Vogel, were RUN OUT BY FARADAY EMPLOYEES who KNEW they had only 1 objective --force BK to take equity ownership. Sadly, Avaya employees were WARNED. THEY WERE ENCOURAGED TO ASSEMBLE AND FIGHT. They did not. They sat back, scolded common share retail investors and neglected to realize that the retail investors were ON AVAYA EMPLOYEES SIDE. Apollo followed closely. They LOVED the tone deaf marketing evangelists who still proudly disdained shareholders. The retail investors wanted the same outcome as employees.

Fact 5

  • Yet Employees just never understood. Most still dont understand what is really going on (and I am an employee). The same employees who sat back and believed the Subscription and Fake Cloud game were the ones who gaslit anyone who tried to address and expose that the Board of Directors were conspiring with Apollo to force all shares to be devalued to then take majority ownership position. In fact, I recall one of Avaya’s so-called ‘spokespeople’ on a call ignorantly theorizing that Apollo is not a bad idea, they can infuse money and help Avaya. He didn’t realize that Apollo was essentially taking over value by only buying into some debt for pennies on the dollar to use as leverage to STEAL from all employees and shareholders. The employees did Alan Masarek no favors. He FOUGHT. He was locked in an NDA and could say little. He gave it his all. Then he just couldn't overcome the layered manipulation of Apollo. His final act in his fight was releasing the "Cleansing Documents' in December to ENCOURAGE Lenders and Employees to fightback. Apollo and temp- Apollo-apointed-CFO did not want those released. All lenders were not on-board and it risked their plan.

FACT 6

  • PIVOT That is when they cracked down on Masarek and he just wanted out of the drama and to move on. Hey accepted Dave Michels open-ended invitation to meet up. He began to socialize the idea of Bankruptcy (there is a lot of crossover in the timeline here). He hoped there maybe an out and kept options open, yet also accepted that BK was real and tried to focus on the positive. Then, specificially the Compensation Committee, hijacked the risk by giving the bonus money to Masarek and Shefali Shah. Shah knew too much about potential security violations. Masarek was too capable of overcoming Apollo. They somewhat cornered them by making it look like a payoff.

Fact 7

  • You may say that, “Ok, CEO is a good guy. He inherited a mess. Let’s move on”, right? Hmmm. NO!APOLLO BRIBED THE BOARD to CONTINUOUSLY COMMIT SECURITIES FRAUD & THEN COVERED IT UP in exchange for handing Apollo the keys to the company Not One of the Execs or BoD Members Reported the Violations. They acquiesced to a hostile takeover to take the easy road out of the disaster zone.

Fact 8

  • Here come the smelling salts. REALITY CHECK! Apollo now has the power to own Avaya at the conclusion of Chapter 11. Does anyone recall life with SilverLake? Yes! That is our new reality. So. If anyone is opposed NOW IS THE TIME TO SPEAKUP. Email the BK Judge. Focus on how the Board of Directors neglected FIDICUARY DUTY. STOP THE CONSPIRED CHAPTER 11. FIGHT FOR YOUR ESPP & RSU’s. YOU HAVE ONE LAST CHANCE. Otherwise, Apollo will begin to sell-off parts after the 90-days. That is when they make their money. PS – Don’t dare to gaslight this post. The SEC is watching.
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Post ID: @OP+1leEqWYt

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Securities Fraud.
"Ongoing SEC Investigation"?
How is it that ANY employee is standing tall declaring how this bankruptcy is underway and better than the last (first, it is a HOPE that it is approved, not a guarantee AND...
How do we skip over the ⁉️⁉️⁉️ONGOING SEC INVESTIGATION ⁉️⁉️⁉️

Do any of you really think that just disappears?

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Post ID: @7vkb+1leEqWYt

Honestly, this is what stands out to me. And it is fact (supported by public data), not theory. Apollo bought into debt for pennies, and hijacked the debt negotiations to get their way.

"Apollo was essentially taking over value by only buying into some debt for pennies on the dollar to use as leverage to STEAL from all employees and shareholders"

Also, no one can "hunker down" to overcome these realities. Tactics are metrics for the self absorbed, not the productive.

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Post ID: @5nit+1leEqWYt

You American Blokes make us all look Daft.

Luke Skywalker? Batman? Ted Lasso? Are you pillicocks serious? Do you not pause to reflect how that makes Avaya associates appear to our clients and competition?

If these shenanigans took place over here, the FCA would be knee deep into unraveling the dodgy moves associated with Avaya and the board this past year. The facts speak for themselves. What we are not fully aware of all detains and specific moves that took place along this journey, yet this post helps us all think through the possibilities. Most facts remain even if a few steps are unknown.

I do earnestly hope the US SEC releases their investigation soon to give us all more clarity. I for one will not be blindly following the corporate statements. You all look the fool for blindly declaring anything that is not positive as false. It is associates like you that perpetuated this fraud.

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Post ID: @5vpj+1leEqWYt

This paragraph is what stands out -- why is not what you all are focusing on?????????????

APOLLO BRIBED THE BOARD to CONTINUOUSLY COMMIT SECURITIES FRAUD & THEN COVERED IT UP in exchange for handing Apollo the keys to the company Not One of the Execs or BoD Members Reported the Violations. They acquiesced to a hostile takeover to take the easy road out of the disaster zone

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Post ID: @4sjr+1leEqWYt

Apolio will soon realise they got control of a big brown tu-d 🥔

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Post ID: @3bji+1leEqWYt

If Apollo “sells off” pieces of Avaya, what would they be selling? I know this is very unlikely, but if the deal included job protection for my team, I would love to work for a company that treats us better than Avaya has.

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Post ID: @3lwb+1leEqWYt

Avaya does not own property in Morristown NJ. Has a long term lease in place from 2016 move from Mt. Airy when that property was sold off

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Post ID: @2ork+1leEqWYt

I don’t see the Avaya channel selling much Avaya cloud product. Sell Avaya Cloud and you never get paid.

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Post ID: @1szo+1leEqWYt

If they own that real estate, those are items that need to be reported to the bankruptcy judge about ASSETS. Assets that could be sold that could change the pre-packaged BK.

And yes, highly unusual to not list office HQ in official BK Announcement. It would appear to be NJ, except that you are correct. NY State has the most promising incentives at present. We've already had one CEO move an entire company HQ to match where he lives. Let's hope this one will do the best for balance sheets and not his zip code, like the last one.
I read "They" as the "board" or "collective board Apollo" that hired masarek. Not Chirico. Your so called burn just makes you look like a petty snowflake.

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Post ID: @1qgo+1leEqWYt

HQ move is more so about saving real estate dollars - NJ office property is Avaya owned, Durham is not. The September layoffs essentially wiped out 80% of those that theoretically would "return to office" 3x a week in Durham. Don't take that number for fact, totally made it up, but it was a fat majority.They g-n for the tax incentive sure, but this is about scraping savings. Is it sadistic to want to see it all hit the fan?

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Post ID: @1fqk+1leEqWYt

See how that strike works for you in a fire " at will" state in the US. You'll be lucky to to get any serverance or unemployment.

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Post ID: @1cis+1leEqWYt

This blind loyalty to take down others is some Children of God cult-like shyte. Strikes are not an option, at least in US, but due legal process is. So use your voice and stop Apollo from stealing Avaya.

Also, be careful throwing around statements on others. Bully gossip isn't fact. And anyone who stood up to Avaya's business operations automatically looks the victor, not the loser.
An then of course, should you be employed by Avaya and have your facts incorrect, there is this Legal thing called Libel

"If the publisher of the false statements acted with actual malice. Actual malice means that the publisher knew that the statements were false or acted with reckless disregard for whether they were true or false."

Also be are aware that the person you are attempting to defame has deep pockets and legal resources.
Y'all need to focus wisely, as Apollo is just playing you while they line their pockets.

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Post ID: @1upo+1leEqWYt

Don't be afraid have we lost our American fighting spirit, I agree let's stand up unite and fight this corporate ra-e of a once great company, strike action is the only way prepare to win let's all stand together

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Post ID: @1mlu+1leEqWYt

Hey batman, we all remember when you shamed a former avaya employee on social media for calling out your "protégé" for being a fool. Your ego is once again getting the best of you and you have showed yourself. While there may be a few things off in this post, many things are true and can be traced publicly. First and foremost, all the shareholders which have lost all their money. Many are Avaya employees...current and past...some have had their entire retirements wiped out. Shine your batlight on that.

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Post ID: @1rlz+1leEqWYt

This isn’t Star Wars. Masarek isn’t Luke Skywalker. There isn’t a force to bring this into balance. Grow up.

BTW…We all know who you are and you’re not an employee…you were fired because no one on the healthcare team wanted anything to do with you. There are multiple things in your rant that have already happened and the idea that Chirico “kept fighting” and “recruited Masarek” is absolutely hilarious.

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Post ID: @1ifs+1leEqWYt

To the person that said "get back to work to build a better company", we have been trying for the last 20 years but this awful upper management have made such terrible business decisions and product investments (Oceana, Breeze, Flare, Scopia).

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Post ID: @ebo+1leEqWYt

Fact - the OP of this has more time to post than to do actual work. Get back to work and build a better company. Or strike, yes please strike and take your toxic culture with you when you find you are out of a job.

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Post ID: @qpg+1leEqWYt

Who cares?
Do absolute minimum for your job.
Cash the paycheck
Take your vacation
Plan your next move
Ride it out until the end
Avaya has always been chaos
Always will

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Post ID: @hkh+1leEqWYt

Remember. Bankruptcy is based on liquidity.
As Alan Masarek stated in September, Avaya had enough liquidity to make debt payments on time. It was Apollo who conspired to mix up who paid what and when to then claim Avaya had no choice but chapter 11.
If your messages speak to the manipulation of shifting the money around, it will help the judge stand up to Apollo's attorneys.

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Post ID: @tzz+1leEqWYt

BK Judge is David R. Jones in Houston.

His Case Manager is Albert Alonzo. Send messages to:

albert_alonzo@txs.uscourts.gov

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Post ID: @dck+1leEqWYt

Where do you write the bankruptcy Judge..

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Post ID: @kkx+1leEqWYt

Maybe in other countries, but in the US, a strike will just accelerate layoffs and terminations when they already need to cut jobs.

Employees need to write ✍️ the bankruptcy judge and highlight how Apollo will end up with near all of the equity when the employees are left with nothing. Make the bankruptcy judge force the engineers of the bankruptcy package to require that they give all employee stock holders some value as opposed to all value going to Apollo and Brigade. They've only REQUESTED BK, it's not approved yet.

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Post ID: @ryd+1leEqWYt

Yes, the real power is with employees, if everyone goes out on strike this will force them to rethink this criminal act, they have no Avaya without associates, did you see the HR email yesterday about new incentive plan, just a ploy to keep you sweet, it won't be paid as they will just say we didn't meet the targets.. So stand up organise and strike we have the power to stop this but time is running out

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